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> I am also not worried for things like covid and climate change Would you care to explain why?

by mqrs 6y ago

wsc981 6y ago
> Would you care to explain why? I'm not sure if my explanation would be fruitful here. I realise most people on HackerNews likely disagree with me on these issues. I am not here to convince people of my views on these issues. I respect anyones opinions on these matters. But since you asked, in short: - I really don't believe COVID-19 is as dangerous as is projected in the media - I believe the human influence on climate change is much less than what most people tend to believe My views are based on my own research on these issues. If you'd asked me what issues I'm worried about, it's issues like pollution in the general sense (e.g. like plastics in the sea) or human population growth.
- ravenstine 6y ago
  People with your perspective shouldn't be downvoted when merely being asked their honest opinion. It really goes to show the state of both HN and intellectualism in general.
- klmadfejno 6y ago
  > - I believe the human influence on climate change is much less than what most people tend to believe I disagree with this with a resentment towards someone saying its a research based view. Putting that aside, however, why would believing climate change isn't human influenced would make things more palatable? In the vaguest sense, that sounds to me like it would be worse, because then we can't possibly do anything to halt it.
- oblio 6y ago
  > - I really don't believe COVID-19 is as dangerous as is projected in the media Well, it's obviously not very dangerous, on a medium or long term. The Black Plague had a 40% mortality rate, SARS about 20%, etc. A virus with a 1-2% mortality rate won't bring society down, obviously. The media machine needs nourishment and they tend to exaggerate things. However Covid-19 is still a big deal. If it runs its course unchecked ~50-80 million of people could die. That's a lot of pain and suffering, the likes of which the world hasn't had in at least 60 years. > - I believe the human influence on climate change is much less than what most people tend to believe This, I don't think anyone can justify. Maybe the climate warming estimates are overblown, ok, but human influence is undeniable and worst of all, we have no control over it and little visibility. It's like physics and closed systems, humanity is an open system and we're leaking pollution everywhere. Any way you cut it, that can't be good or sustainable. And there are so many of us that we definitely have an impact on the world. For example the Great Pacific Garbage Patch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_garbage_patch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_garbage_patch). And these things will only become worse as we will have 3x - 4x as many people living in industrialized countries (4 billion people or more).
Spinnaker_ 6y ago
I feel the same. All evidence points to Covid being far less dangerous to children. There are so many other things that are more likely to harm them. As far as climate change, I am worried in general, but I don't think there is anything specific about it that would harm her future. We live in Canada. There will be problems, but we will adapt and figure something out. My parents lived through the most intense portions of the Cold War. The world could have ended at any moment. That is much more anxiety producing than climate change. And yet they made it through ok. Honestly, a big concern is how my daughter will deal with things like social media. Young girls are self harming at unheard of rates. Depression and anxiety are through the roof. I don't know how to deal with this.
rhino369 6y ago
Covid is about as bad as the flu for kids. Certainly wouldn't want it, but its not the end of the world. The worst consequences of climate change won't fall on Middle Class Americans, it'll fall on people who cannot afford to move, rely on subsistence farming, etc. Maybe Miami and New Orleans don't exist in 2100. But cities like Chicago were founded and became large cities in under 80 years. And I'm pretty sure cities like Miami will just slowly recede inward rather than pack it all up.

> I am also not worried for things like covid and climate change Would you care to explain why?

by mqrs 6y ago

> I am also not worried for things like covid and climate change Would you care to explain why?

> Would you care to explain why? I'm not sure if my explanation would be fruitful here. I realise most people on HackerNews likely disagree with me on these issues. I am not here to convince people of my views on these issues. I respect anyones opinions on these matters. But since you asked, in short: - I really don't believe COVID-19 is as dangerous as is projected in the media - I believe the human influence on climate change is much less than what most people tend to believe My views are based on my own research on these issues. If you'd asked me what issues I'm worried about, it's issues like pollution in the general sense (e.g. like plastics in the sea) or human population growth.

ravenstine 6y ago
People with your perspective shouldn't be downvoted when merely being asked their honest opinion. It really goes to show the state of both HN and intellectualism in general.
klmadfejno 6y ago
> - I believe the human influence on climate change is much less than what most people tend to believe I disagree with this with a resentment towards someone saying its a research based view. Putting that aside, however, why would believing climate change isn't human influenced would make things more palatable? In the vaguest sense, that sounds to me like it would be worse, because then we can't possibly do anything to halt it.
oblio 6y ago
> - I really don't believe COVID-19 is as dangerous as is projected in the media Well, it's obviously not very dangerous, on a medium or long term. The Black Plague had a 40% mortality rate, SARS about 20%, etc. A virus with a 1-2% mortality rate won't bring society down, obviously. The media machine needs nourishment and they tend to exaggerate things. However Covid-19 is still a big deal. If it runs its course unchecked ~50-80 million of people could die. That's a lot of pain and suffering, the likes of which the world hasn't had in at least 60 years. > - I believe the human influence on climate change is much less than what most people tend to believe This, I don't think anyone can justify. Maybe the climate warming estimates are overblown, ok, but human influence is undeniable and worst of all, we have no control over it and little visibility. It's like physics and closed systems, humanity is an open system and we're leaking pollution everywhere. Any way you cut it, that can't be good or sustainable. And there are so many of us that we definitely have an impact on the world. For example the Great Pacific Garbage Patch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_garbage_patch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_garbage_patch). And these things will only become worse as we will have 3x - 4x as many people living in industrialized countries (4 billion people or more).

Spinnaker_ 6y ago

I feel the same. All evidence points to Covid being far less dangerous to children. There are so many other things that are more likely to harm them. As far as climate change, I am worried in general, but I don't think there is anything specific about it that would harm her future. We live in Canada. There will be problems, but we will adapt and figure something out. My parents lived through the most intense portions of the Cold War. The world could have ended at any moment. That is much more anxiety producing than climate change. And yet they made it through ok. Honestly, a big concern is how my daughter will deal with things like social media. Young girls are self harming at unheard of rates. Depression and anxiety are through the roof. I don't know how to deal with this.

rhino369 6y ago

Covid is about as bad as the flu for kids. Certainly wouldn't want it, but its not the end of the world. The worst consequences of climate change won't fall on Middle Class Americans, it'll fall on people who cannot afford to move, rely on subsistence farming, etc. Maybe Miami and New Orleans don't exist in 2100. But cities like Chicago were founded and became large cities in under 80 years. And I'm pretty sure cities like Miami will just slowly recede inward rather than pack it all up.