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> It's going to come down to games, I think. Although I haven't had much time for them lately. I've moved to consoles for games. Rarely I play a game on my Mac

> It's going to come down to games, I think. Although I haven't had much time for them lately. I've moved to consoles for games. Rarely I play a game on my Mac anymore. When you sit behind your desk all day for work. Playing games in that same environment and posture gets tiring. The console brings the games to the living room TV in a much more confortable setting.

0xCMP 6y ago
Also with things like Paperspace and up coming game streaming services it really feels like it won't matter all that much for the times you want to play games on the Mac. Also remember that with the M1 Macs you'll be getting some access to all the games released for iOS of which many are not the IAP types and are worth playing.
- WanderPanda 6y ago
  Upcoming gaming streaming services? Upcoming in a sense like net positive energy fusion is upcoming? :p
slipheen 6y ago
I've done this a decent amount myself, but one thing I've been disappointed by is mod support. Since PCs aren't locked down platforms, you can mod games whether they added support originally or not - But on Consoles, only a rare few games support it. There are ways to jailbreak consoles and add external mod support, but the process is so esoteric and user-hostile that most console games will have few or any mods written.
burlesona 6y ago
Totally agree. Largely quitting PC gaming has been a productivity boon for me. I think somehow the activity being at the same machine I use for work drains my work energy, and for whatever reason the console experience is sufficiently different that it doesn't feel like the same activity.
- swat535 6y ago
  Huh interesting, I feel very uncomfortable sitting on the couch and find it promotes unhealthy, hunched over posture as opposed to the ergonomic desktop chair.
tomaskafka 6y ago
Or you can build a pretty decent upgradeable game machine for a fraction of developer MBP :).
- wayneftw 6y ago
  We've got a Windows 10 box at every TV. Aside from games, it's just so much faster and ad-free compared to using a Smart TV/Roku/Apple TV/etc. They're also easier to operate with a Logitech K400r keyboard and touchpad. Add an XBox controller and a decent GPU and it's just like using a console but with cheaper games. You don't need to build an expensive gaming PC either. My 4 year old i5/GTX1070/16gb/SSD still plays all the games I want it to. I can even play at 4K. I expect this $900 machine to last me at least a couple more years. If you just want to watch YouTube/Netflix/etc on your couch and do some very light gaming though, check out what you can get for ~$200 - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B8VX5HZ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B8VX5HZ

0xCMP 6y ago

Also with things like Paperspace and up coming game streaming services it really feels like it won't matter all that much for the times you want to play games on the Mac. Also remember that with the M1 Macs you'll be getting some access to all the games released for iOS of which many are not the IAP types and are worth playing.

WanderPanda 6y ago
Upcoming gaming streaming services? Upcoming in a sense like net positive energy fusion is upcoming? :p

slipheen 6y ago

I've done this a decent amount myself, but one thing I've been disappointed by is mod support. Since PCs aren't locked down platforms, you can mod games whether they added support originally or not - But on Consoles, only a rare few games support it. There are ways to jailbreak consoles and add external mod support, but the process is so esoteric and user-hostile that most console games will have few or any mods written.

burlesona 6y ago

Totally agree. Largely quitting PC gaming has been a productivity boon for me. I think somehow the activity being at the same machine I use for work drains my work energy, and for whatever reason the console experience is sufficiently different that it doesn't feel like the same activity.

swat535 6y ago
Huh interesting, I feel very uncomfortable sitting on the couch and find it promotes unhealthy, hunched over posture as opposed to the ergonomic desktop chair.

tomaskafka 6y ago

Or you can build a pretty decent upgradeable game machine for a fraction of developer MBP :).

wayneftw 6y ago
We've got a Windows 10 box at every TV. Aside from games, it's just so much faster and ad-free compared to using a Smart TV/Roku/Apple TV/etc. They're also easier to operate with a Logitech K400r keyboard and touchpad. Add an XBox controller and a decent GPU and it's just like using a console but with cheaper games. You don't need to build an expensive gaming PC either. My 4 year old i5/GTX1070/16gb/SSD still plays all the games I want it to. I can even play at 4K. I expect this $900 machine to last me at least a couple more years. If you just want to watch YouTube/Netflix/etc on your couch and do some very light gaming though, check out what you can get for ~$200 - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B8VX5HZ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B8VX5HZ