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The fascinating thing with Twitter is their 'corrections' to Trump's tweets say 'official sources' dispute them. Clicking on the corrections gives a pointer to
by nailer 6y ago
The fascinating thing with Twitter is their 'corrections' to Trump's tweets say 'official sources' dispute them. Clicking on the corrections gives a pointer to AP and NBC.
Technically they're incorrect. AP and NBC are by no means official sources for the results of US elections. The Electoral College is the official source for the results of US elections.
In this way, Twitter itself spreads disinformation - and somewhat dangerous disinformation at that, as the media most definitely should not have any official control over the election.
- cycrutchfield 6y agoThis doesn't even make sense. The electoral college doesn't meet until January. The AP and NBC sources collate the results of the elections from each individual state, which comes directly from the Secretary of State websites for each state. What in there is disinformation?
- nailer 6y agoThe electoral college meets on Dec 14.
- cycrutchfield 6y agoMy mistake. The votes are counted on January 6th. It's an irrelevant detail here though.
- elicash 6y agoAre you referring to the "Multiple sources called this election differently" disclaimer? Or the "Official sources may not have called the race when this was tweeted" one?
- nailer 6y ago"Official sources called this election differently" is the exact message I'm discussing (the message then refers to the AP and NBC) 1. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em8ByxrXMAEN_Mi?format=jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em8ByxrXMAEN_Mi?format=jpg 2. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em8By4-XcAIUY2D?format=jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em8By4-XcAIUY2D?format=jpg
- cycrutchfield 6y agoSo your argument is that AP and NBC are not allowed to "call" these elections based on results tabulated by each state? Seems like you're really grasping at straws here.
- nailer 6y agoNo my argument is that NBC and AP are not official sources and are being presented as such.
- cycrutchfield 6y agoThe "official sources" are the election results tabulated by each state. NBC and AP collate this data and show that Biden has enough electoral votes to win. That is what is meant by "call". A "call" is what happens before the electors meet to vote. To suggest that you need to wait until January 6th or whenever in order to "call" the election is absurd.
- nailer 6y agoState recounts finish December 8. The Electoral College meets December 14. The Electoral College determines the winner. Any 'result' before the EC determines the winner is a preliminary result.
- cycrutchfield 6y agoRecounts do not change results with something like 99% probability, particularly results with large enough margins like these. Therefore, it is reasonable to determine with high probability what the final electoral results will be from the "preliminary" count of votes. Again, not only are the margins within each individual state large enough to make it improbable to overturn, the margins of the predicted electoral votes are large enough as well, even in the unlikely event that an individual state is somehow overturned. This is not even remotely close to Bush v. Gore in 2000. Your objections seem overly pedantic, to be honest.
- kgin 6y agoAP and NBC are not the ones disputing. They're reporting the dispute.