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I'd expect NVIDIA to join the ARM CPU race, too. And they have experience with the tooling for lots and lots of cores from CUDA. So I'd expect to have 5x to 10x

I'd expect NVIDIA to join the ARM CPU race, too. And they have experience with the tooling for lots and lots of cores from CUDA. So I'd expect to have 5x to 10x the M1's performance available for desktops in 1-2 years. In fact, AMD's MI100 accelerator already has roughly 10x the FLOPS on 64bit. That said, it's an amazing notebook CPU.

athms 6y ago
>I'd expect NVIDIA to join the ARM CPU race, too. Nvidia has been making ARM SoCs since 2008. They have been used in cars, tablets, phones, and entertainment systems. What do you think powers the Nintendo Switch?
- fxtentacle 6y ago
  Agree. Yeah I should have thought about the Switch and write things more clearly. I meant that NVIDIA will start producing ARM CPUs optimized for peak data-center performance, similar to how they now have CUDA accelerator cards for data centers, which are starting to diverge from desktop GPUs. In the past, NVIDIA's ARM division mostly focussed on mobile SoCs. Now that Graviton and M1 are here, I'd expect NVIDIA to also produce high-wattage ARM CPUs.
danaris 6y ago
To quote from Ars Technica's review of the M1 by Jim Salter [0]: > Although it's extremely difficult to get accurate Apples-to-non-Apples benchmarks on this new architecture, I feel confident in saying that this truly is a world-leading design—you can get faster raw CPU performance, but only on power-is-no-object desktop or server CPUs. Similarly, you can beat the M1's GPU with high-end Nvidia or Radeon desktop cards—but only at a massive disparity in power, physical size, and heat. ...So, given that, and assuming that Apple will attempt to compete with them, I think it likely that they will, at the very least, be able to match them on even footing, when freed from the constraints of size, heat, and power that are relevant to notebook chips. [0] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/11/hands-on-with-the-apple-m1-a-seriously-fast-x86-competitor/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/11/hands-on-with-the-ap...

athms 6y ago

>I'd expect NVIDIA to join the ARM CPU race, too. Nvidia has been making ARM SoCs since 2008. They have been used in cars, tablets, phones, and entertainment systems. What do you think powers the Nintendo Switch?

fxtentacle 6y ago
Agree. Yeah I should have thought about the Switch and write things more clearly. I meant that NVIDIA will start producing ARM CPUs optimized for peak data-center performance, similar to how they now have CUDA accelerator cards for data centers, which are starting to diverge from desktop GPUs. In the past, NVIDIA's ARM division mostly focussed on mobile SoCs. Now that Graviton and M1 are here, I'd expect NVIDIA to also produce high-wattage ARM CPUs.

danaris 6y ago

To quote from Ars Technica's review of the M1 by Jim Salter [0]: > Although it's extremely difficult to get accurate Apples-to-non-Apples benchmarks on this new architecture, I feel confident in saying that this truly is a world-leading design—you can get faster raw CPU performance, but only on power-is-no-object desktop or server CPUs. Similarly, you can beat the M1's GPU with high-end Nvidia or Radeon desktop cards—but only at a massive disparity in power, physical size, and heat. ...So, given that, and assuming that Apple will attempt to compete with them, I think it likely that they will, at the very least, be able to match them on even footing, when freed from the constraints of size, heat, and power that are relevant to notebook chips. [0] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/11/hands-on-with-the-apple-m1-a-seriously-fast-x86-competitor/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/11/hands-on-with-the-ap...