"Those didn't matter as much for desktop apps, which always looked gross." I don't understand what you mean by this. I don't think desktop apps "look gross" at

"Those didn't matter as much for desktop apps, which always looked gross." I don't understand what you mean by this. I don't think desktop apps "look gross" at all. Or did you mean that Swing desktop apps looked gross because they didn't conform to the native look and feel of the platform they were running on?