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I have feeling about Apple wants to keep the user data for their own. With recently privacy issues about macOS and iOS, it sounds like they protect user from 3r

I have feeling about Apple wants to keep the user data for their own. With recently privacy issues about macOS and iOS, it sounds like they protect user from 3rd party but the real purpose seems to be they want to control user and user's data.

user-the-name 6y ago
They do not collect it themselves either. The "recent privacy issues" did not involve Apple collecting any user information.
- intricatedetail 6y ago
  Why are you lying? Do you work for Apple?
  - dang 6y ago
    This comment breaks several of the site guidelines. Please read them and stick to the rules when posting here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- turbinerneiter 6y ago
  So they say.
  - user-the-name 6y ago
    And there is zero evidence to the contrary.
sjwright 6y ago
You say that like it's a bad thing. Apple is a company many of us have voluntarily chosen to enter a commercial relationship with in a reasonably clear, traditional manner—whereby I give Apple money in exchange for goods and services. Apple aren't making money from my data behind my back. Apple have never stood accused of surreptitiously weaponising my own data against me. They are not collecting my data in order to target me with manipulative advertising or tailor algorithms to maximise engagement.
- quyleanh 6y ago
  I want a true privacy, I don't want to go too deep into Apple's ecosystem then someday I cannot go out. No one can assure the big companies turn out and against them. It's just my feeling about a big tech company always talk about privacy but its action seems not.
  - sjwright 6y ago
    Obviously any company can turn evil at any time. Right now though Apple is doing a commendable job of bending the arc of technology towards privacy. They're by no means perfect, but they're better than most other large tech companies and they're getting better over time. The current implementation of "IDFA" was an improvement on what came before it (unfettered raw access to the hardware UDID) and Apple have already announced that consumers will be actively prompted to approve IDFA usage in the near future. I do worry that if collectively we act like nothing but absolute perfection can ever satify us, perhaps companies will feel no incentive to make progressive improvements to privacy.

user-the-name 6y ago

They do not collect it themselves either. The "recent privacy issues" did not involve Apple collecting any user information.

intricatedetail 6y ago
Why are you lying? Do you work for Apple?
- dang 6y ago
  This comment breaks several of the site guidelines. Please read them and stick to the rules when posting here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
turbinerneiter 6y ago
So they say.
- user-the-name 6y ago
  And there is zero evidence to the contrary.

sjwright 6y ago

You say that like it's a bad thing. Apple is a company many of us have voluntarily chosen to enter a commercial relationship with in a reasonably clear, traditional manner—whereby I give Apple money in exchange for goods and services. Apple aren't making money from my data behind my back. Apple have never stood accused of surreptitiously weaponising my own data against me. They are not collecting my data in order to target me with manipulative advertising or tailor algorithms to maximise engagement.

quyleanh 6y ago
I want a true privacy, I don't want to go too deep into Apple's ecosystem then someday I cannot go out. No one can assure the big companies turn out and against them. It's just my feeling about a big tech company always talk about privacy but its action seems not.
- sjwright 6y ago
  Obviously any company can turn evil at any time. Right now though Apple is doing a commendable job of bending the arc of technology towards privacy. They're by no means perfect, but they're better than most other large tech companies and they're getting better over time. The current implementation of "IDFA" was an improvement on what came before it (unfettered raw access to the hardware UDID) and Apple have already announced that consumers will be actively prompted to approve IDFA usage in the near future. I do worry that if collectively we act like nothing but absolute perfection can ever satify us, perhaps companies will feel no incentive to make progressive improvements to privacy.