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Just put the offer on ycombinator's - or another reputable entity's - web site for everyone to see. However the "call me" part is half joking; while I have idea

by jerry5 18y ago

Just put the offer on ycombinator's - or another reputable entity's - web site for everyone to see. However the "call me" part is half joking; while I have ideas to tackle some of those problems, especially the economic foundations of them, they are not amenable to funding by ycombinator or similar entities. The smaller problems being purely practical such as not being - or wanting to be - in that funny country of yours over there, the larger ones being that it's a contradiction in terms to use an old economic model (invenstments, corporate structures, sell-outs) to create a new economic model. Look at the file-sharing example quoted: A P2P network technology, even one that created economic benefits for its participants, such as musicians and listeners, would never get VC funding since there's no central entity to siphon the profits off.

rms 18y ago
I sincerely look forward to your futuristic improved economic system, capitalism is lacking in many important areas.
- jerry5 18y ago
  If you wan to mock someone why not mock the original post that's asking for new economic models?
- agentbleu 18y ago
  I was so sick and tiered of hearing that capitalism is the best system we have, "theres nothing better", that I designed a new world order. It is better than capitalism by a very long way. It's a complicated idea, slightly difficult to grasp, but given any problem it will robustly yield the best result for the community. You can read it if your interested on the wayback. http://web.archive.org/web/20060613054329/http://creatocracy.com/ http://web.archive.org/web/20060613054329/http://creatocracy...
  - jerry5 18y ago
    Sorry on the first 10 or so pages I saw just blah blah. Don't spam the forum here if you have nothing to offer.
    - agentbleu 18y ago
      it seems to me that you have really nothing to offer, considering you can only manage 10 pages and a one line comment. If you only want the design and not the reasons for it then you can start here, http://web.archive.org/web/20060615193321/creatocracy.com/project-c.html http://web.archive.org/web/20060615193321/creatocracy.com/pr...
      - jerry5 18y ago
        No one needs the reasons spelt out for them. That the current system has deficiencies is more or less painfully obvious to everyone. I may read some of your stuff later.
        agentbleu 18y ago
        strangely, this seems to be a new awaking, when originally written and project started in about 2002, it was painful how ignorant people were in general of the impending doom. That said I take on board your point that there is no longer need for an introduction.
    - agentbleu 18y ago
      To give you one idea about the design and how it would treat people like you within it, (I notice that your kama on HN (jerry5) is -10) The creatocracy recognizes that one size does not fit all, treats all according to their history and respect. You would find that your voice counted less with regards voting rights and you may well find that if your attitude became a burden on others that your tax level would rise higher than others. Self organizing self regulating. Feedback is an essential component!
      - jerry5 18y ago
        The karma system is a popularity contest as discussed in the various Hacker-News-is-going-down-the-drain discussions that have been popping up here a lot as of late. To any one who grew up with /. that's not a surprise. In that respect I found kuro5hin quite interesting in, as it seperates out how many people voted the post/comment up or down. I wrote posts that had a lot of people agree (5 points) and a lot disagree (1 point) with very few in the middle ground, i.e. the audience was divided. I loved that. It means you are not sucking up to the majority yet not writing utter crap. Had you just computed the point average then that information would've gotten lost.
- brianlash 18y ago
  The world hasn't seen Capitalism proper. Too much regulation, too little laissez faire to argue from experience that it's lacking in any area. Blame the government (or, dare I say, its unfettered expansion).

by jerry5 18y ago

rms 18y ago

I sincerely look forward to your futuristic improved economic system, capitalism is lacking in many important areas.

jerry5 18y ago
If you wan to mock someone why not mock the original post that's asking for new economic models?
agentbleu 18y ago
I was so sick and tiered of hearing that capitalism is the best system we have, "theres nothing better", that I designed a new world order. It is better than capitalism by a very long way. It's a complicated idea, slightly difficult to grasp, but given any problem it will robustly yield the best result for the community. You can read it if your interested on the wayback. http://web.archive.org/web/20060613054329/http://creatocracy.com/ http://web.archive.org/web/20060613054329/http://creatocracy...
- jerry5 18y ago
  Sorry on the first 10 or so pages I saw just blah blah. Don't spam the forum here if you have nothing to offer.
  - agentbleu 18y ago
    it seems to me that you have really nothing to offer, considering you can only manage 10 pages and a one line comment. If you only want the design and not the reasons for it then you can start here, http://web.archive.org/web/20060615193321/creatocracy.com/project-c.html http://web.archive.org/web/20060615193321/creatocracy.com/pr...
    - jerry5 18y ago
      No one needs the reasons spelt out for them. That the current system has deficiencies is more or less painfully obvious to everyone. I may read some of your stuff later.
      - agentbleu 18y ago
        strangely, this seems to be a new awaking, when originally written and project started in about 2002, it was painful how ignorant people were in general of the impending doom. That said I take on board your point that there is no longer need for an introduction.
  - agentbleu 18y ago
    To give you one idea about the design and how it would treat people like you within it, (I notice that your kama on HN (jerry5) is -10) The creatocracy recognizes that one size does not fit all, treats all according to their history and respect. You would find that your voice counted less with regards voting rights and you may well find that if your attitude became a burden on others that your tax level would rise higher than others. Self organizing self regulating. Feedback is an essential component!
    - jerry5 18y ago
      The karma system is a popularity contest as discussed in the various Hacker-News-is-going-down-the-drain discussions that have been popping up here a lot as of late. To any one who grew up with /. that's not a surprise. In that respect I found kuro5hin quite interesting in, as it seperates out how many people voted the post/comment up or down. I wrote posts that had a lot of people agree (5 points) and a lot disagree (1 point) with very few in the middle ground, i.e. the audience was divided. I loved that. It means you are not sucking up to the majority yet not writing utter crap. Had you just computed the point average then that information would've gotten lost.
brianlash 18y ago
The world hasn't seen Capitalism proper. Too much regulation, too little laissez faire to argue from experience that it's lacking in any area. Blame the government (or, dare I say, its unfettered expansion).