While I did not do this recently, I spent 8 years going through chemistry courses with some physics thrown in. Orgo was a weed out course but it was weeding ou

While I did not do this recently, I spent 8 years going through chemistry courses with some physics thrown in. Orgo was a weed out course but it was weeding out pre-meds rather than STEM people. The structure of the chemistry major at Penn was designed for chem majors - too many higher level or lab courses for the pre-xxx crowd. And 3 semesters of calc was required for p-chem and qm. Seems few willingly take calc courses... In grad school (Duke) 1/7th of the student body took freshman chemistry. This was merely prep for the orgo weed out, and provided a lot of $$ for TA’s. As far as I can tell, both schools still operate this way. And then there’s those lab courses - multiple 4-hour sessions a week since doing “cooking” or shooting spectra takes time. But playing with dye lasers was fun.