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Not a college student? Find someone who is. – beware of financial plans predicated on fraud.

by jws 16y ago

jessriedel 16y ago
I could be wrong, but I don't think there's anything illegal about having a student buy a laptap and then immediately resell it to you. (On the other hand, it might be illegal to directly claim that you are a student when you really aren't.) Whether you think that's immoral probably has to do with how moral you think price discrimination is in general.
- jws 16y ago
  Student discounts generally require that it be for personal use. Edit: Added after the jrockway and tylerhowath replied, but didn't want to reply to both: From the Apple Sales and Refund Policy… Purchases from the Apple Store for Education Individuals are not for institutional purchase or resale. I presume the same applies to the in store discount. Apple has enough lawyers to cross that "t".
  - jrockway 16y ago
    Require as in "we hope you do what we ask" or require as in "you've signed a legal document"? Considering I was a big Apple fanboi when I was in college and I've never signed a legal document in an Apple store, my guess is that it's the first one.
  - tylerhowarth 16y ago
    I have worked at an apple store, we only require proof that you are a student(student id, transcript, staff paycheck) and a drivers license #. There is no check for the student pricing. You are however limited to buying one computer a year with the discount. So if you try to buy another computer within a year using an education discount with the same DL, you will be denied the discount.
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  - jessriedel 16y ago
    Putting "From the Apple Sales and Refund Policy… Purchases from the Apple Store for Education Individuals are not for institutional purchase or resale" in a refund policy or anywhere does not mean Apple has the right to restrict resales.
    - jws 16y ago
      It doesn't say Apple can prevent the resale, it says the buyer is not entitled to the educational pricing if they are buying the machine for the purpose of resale. The fraud is for the student to buy a machine under the pretext of using it himself, knowing full well that he is buying it for resale. I'm sure it's either in, or incorporated by reference, that text that people don't read about accepting conditions of a sale. In practice, Apple can't afford to sue every weasely kid who thinks he's entitled to free money for being clever. So they also restrict it to one computer a year and take their losses on the young criminal masterminds.

Not a college student? Find someone who is. – beware of financial plans predicated on fraud.

by jws 16y ago

Not a college student? Find someone who is. – beware of financial plans predicated on fraud.

I could be wrong, but I don't think there's anything illegal about having a student buy a laptap and then immediately resell it to you. (On the other hand, it might be illegal to directly claim that you are a student when you really aren't.) Whether you think that's immoral probably has to do with how moral you think price discrimination is in general.

jws 16y ago
Student discounts generally require that it be for personal use. Edit: Added after the jrockway and tylerhowath replied, but didn't want to reply to both: From the Apple Sales and Refund Policy… Purchases from the Apple Store for Education Individuals are not for institutional purchase or resale. I presume the same applies to the in store discount. Apple has enough lawyers to cross that "t".
- jrockway 16y ago
  Require as in "we hope you do what we ask" or require as in "you've signed a legal document"? Considering I was a big Apple fanboi when I was in college and I've never signed a legal document in an Apple store, my guess is that it's the first one.
- tylerhowarth 16y ago
  I have worked at an apple store, we only require proof that you are a student(student id, transcript, staff paycheck) and a drivers license #. There is no check for the student pricing. You are however limited to buying one computer a year with the discount. So if you try to buy another computer within a year using an education discount with the same DL, you will be denied the discount.
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- jessriedel 16y ago
  Putting "From the Apple Sales and Refund Policy… Purchases from the Apple Store for Education Individuals are not for institutional purchase or resale" in a refund policy or anywhere does not mean Apple has the right to restrict resales.
  - jws 16y ago
    It doesn't say Apple can prevent the resale, it says the buyer is not entitled to the educational pricing if they are buying the machine for the purpose of resale. The fraud is for the student to buy a machine under the pretext of using it himself, knowing full well that he is buying it for resale. I'm sure it's either in, or incorporated by reference, that text that people don't read about accepting conditions of a sale. In practice, Apple can't afford to sue every weasely kid who thinks he's entitled to free money for being clever. So they also restrict it to one computer a year and take their losses on the young criminal masterminds.