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Please if you do comparisons, it should be done against comparable countries like, Denmark and Norway. If you compare it against Spain and Italy, whose countrie

Please if you do comparisons, it should be done against comparable countries like, Denmark and Norway. If you compare it against Spain and Italy, whose countries have a far worse health system, distrust of authorities and are much more vulnerable against economic downturns. the fact is Sweden is still doing far worse than Norway and Denmark

sushshshsh 6y ago
What about compared to itself lol
DoingIsLearning 6y ago
> If you compare it against Spain and Italy, whose countries have a far worse health system, distrust of authorities and are much more vulnerable against economic downturns. Minor nitpick, I agree on the other points but Spain objectively does not have a "far worse" Healthcare system than Sweden in 2020. You might need to revise your assumptions. Looking at the data available up to 2015, Denmark already had a worse HAQ index than Spain in 2015, and Spain had a negligible difference compared to Sweden [0]. Spanish longevity has kept increasing and competing with Japan [1], beyond 'mediterranean diet' effects, which again many attribute to Healthcare quality. [0] https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/healthcare-access-and-quality-index?tab=table https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/healthcare-access-and-qua... [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/16/spain-to-beat-japan-2040-world-life-expectancy-league-table https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/16/spain-to-beat-...
s1artibartfast 6y ago
Good thing the data isn't comparing Sweden to Spain and Italy, but Sweden 2020 to 2010-2019. Also, I think there are a lot of problems when conducting comparisons between countries, and it is best to be avoided unless conducted in a extremely rigours way. There are absolutely ways ways in which Sweden is more like Spain or Italy than Denmark or Norway, and it take a through analysis to even attempt a comparison.
Darmody 6y ago
Spain has a better health system than both Denmark and Norway.
mns 6y ago
But wait, everyone is blaming people in Europe and the US for feeding the virus and not behaving properly, comparing them with countries like Taiwan, Singapore, Japan, South Korea, New Zealand. So when is it ok to compare random countries with different climates, different political systems, different population structure and health infrastructure, only when it suits us?

sushshshsh 6y ago

What about compared to itself lol

DoingIsLearning 6y ago

> If you compare it against Spain and Italy, whose countries have a far worse health system, distrust of authorities and are much more vulnerable against economic downturns. Minor nitpick, I agree on the other points but Spain objectively does not have a "far worse" Healthcare system than Sweden in 2020. You might need to revise your assumptions. Looking at the data available up to 2015, Denmark already had a worse HAQ index than Spain in 2015, and Spain had a negligible difference compared to Sweden [0]. Spanish longevity has kept increasing and competing with Japan [1], beyond 'mediterranean diet' effects, which again many attribute to Healthcare quality. [0] https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/healthcare-access-and-quality-index?tab=table https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/healthcare-access-and-qua... [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/16/spain-to-beat-japan-2040-world-life-expectancy-league-table https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/16/spain-to-beat-...

s1artibartfast 6y ago

Good thing the data isn't comparing Sweden to Spain and Italy, but Sweden 2020 to 2010-2019. Also, I think there are a lot of problems when conducting comparisons between countries, and it is best to be avoided unless conducted in a extremely rigours way. There are absolutely ways ways in which Sweden is more like Spain or Italy than Denmark or Norway, and it take a through analysis to even attempt a comparison.

Darmody 6y ago

Spain has a better health system than both Denmark and Norway.

mns 6y ago

But wait, everyone is blaming people in Europe and the US for feeding the virus and not behaving properly, comparing them with countries like Taiwan, Singapore, Japan, South Korea, New Zealand. So when is it ok to compare random countries with different climates, different political systems, different population structure and health infrastructure, only when it suits us?