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Agree with everything with the exception of assuming that Windows updates are anything short of a dumpster fire full of dumpster fires.

by jtdev 6y ago

skohan 6y ago
Yes I spend more and more time on Ubuntu and it's actually great
twelfthnight 6y ago
Agreed. Ran into an issue this week where the forced upgrade of Edge caused some issues for me[1], but it was impossible to run "legacy" Edge because it was updated via Windows update. Why should we have any choice of the version of the software we're running, right? [1] I know, I know, why use Edge? Fun fact, Netflix doesn't render at higher than 720p on Firefox/Chrome because of DRM issues.
- hyperrail 6y ago
  The new Edge's installer does not uninstall the old Edge, it just hides it. On versions of Windows before 20H2 (build 19042), you can bring back the old Edge icons by following these instructions: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/deployedge/microsoft-edge-sysupdate-access-old-edge https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/deployedge/microsoft-edge-s... In short: 1. Run this command as an administrator: reg add hklm\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\EdgeUpdate /v Allowsxs /t REG_DWORD /d 1 2. Download and reinstall the new Edge. Note that Microsoft has said that old Edge will stop getting security updates soon, though I don't know what this actually amounts to as the old Edge's engine remains in Windows for application compatibility even when old Edge is nominally removed. I'd also suggest that you send feedback to Microsoft about any problems you have with new Edge, using the built-in "Send feedback" tool or Windows' Feedback Hub.
  - twelfthnight 6y ago
    What a great comment. Appreciate it!
ohdannyboy 6y ago
Yeah, Windows Update was the main thing that motivated to switch to Linux for daily use. Nothing else presented a big enough pain point to motivate a full switch -- I was mostly happy using Windows and SSHing into Linux to work. I often leave my computer on overnight with the expectation I can pick up whatever I was doing, but Windows Update would force reboot without warning me ahead of time and I'd lose all my stuff. Many times I needed to start my computer and do something right away, but Update decided it needed the next 20 minutes. I remember one particular instance when I needed to shut my laptop down to put in my backback (it was pouring outside) and get to a class, but when I shut down it went into a lengthy update without giving me an option to skip. On Linux I am rarely if ever compelled to reboot unless I upgrade the kernel and want to use specific features like virtualization. There's just no going back once you get used to this.

Agree with everything with the exception of assuming that Windows updates are anything short of a dumpster fire full of dumpster fires.

by jtdev 6y ago

Agree with everything with the exception of assuming that Windows updates are anything short of a dumpster fire full of dumpster fires.

skohan 6y ago

Yes I spend more and more time on Ubuntu and it's actually great

twelfthnight 6y ago

Agreed. Ran into an issue this week where the forced upgrade of Edge caused some issues for me[1], but it was impossible to run "legacy" Edge because it was updated via Windows update. Why should we have any choice of the version of the software we're running, right? [1] I know, I know, why use Edge? Fun fact, Netflix doesn't render at higher than 720p on Firefox/Chrome because of DRM issues.

hyperrail 6y ago
The new Edge's installer does not uninstall the old Edge, it just hides it. On versions of Windows before 20H2 (build 19042), you can bring back the old Edge icons by following these instructions: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/deployedge/microsoft-edge-sysupdate-access-old-edge https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/deployedge/microsoft-edge-s... In short: 1. Run this command as an administrator: reg add hklm\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\EdgeUpdate /v Allowsxs /t REG_DWORD /d 1 2. Download and reinstall the new Edge. Note that Microsoft has said that old Edge will stop getting security updates soon, though I don't know what this actually amounts to as the old Edge's engine remains in Windows for application compatibility even when old Edge is nominally removed. I'd also suggest that you send feedback to Microsoft about any problems you have with new Edge, using the built-in "Send feedback" tool or Windows' Feedback Hub.
- twelfthnight 6y ago
  What a great comment. Appreciate it!

ohdannyboy 6y ago

Yeah, Windows Update was the main thing that motivated to switch to Linux for daily use. Nothing else presented a big enough pain point to motivate a full switch -- I was mostly happy using Windows and SSHing into Linux to work. I often leave my computer on overnight with the expectation I can pick up whatever I was doing, but Windows Update would force reboot without warning me ahead of time and I'd lose all my stuff. Many times I needed to start my computer and do something right away, but Update decided it needed the next 20 minutes. I remember one particular instance when I needed to shut my laptop down to put in my backback (it was pouring outside) and get to a class, but when I shut down it went into a lengthy update without giving me an option to skip. On Linux I am rarely if ever compelled to reboot unless I upgrade the kernel and want to use specific features like virtualization. There's just no going back once you get used to this.