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Lets assume, for once, that what they wrote, is what they stand for. I think this is a very very good / exemplary reaction.

remram 6y ago
Why didn't they start with youtube-dl though? They will defend developers and err on their side "going forward" but no not that one? Surely they already had the legal manpower when the youtube-dl removal started making waves. The fact that they did nothing for over three weeks and are publishing this blog post right after the issue was fixed by someone else (EFF) makes it hard to believe their "changes".
- JokerDan 6y ago
  In large organisations, with lots of tape actually getting the ball rolling on what is proposed with all the sign offs, funds allocated, people/resource allocated for the tasks.... It takes months, not weeks. They probably published this off the back of a signed off proposal and may start implementing off the back of it early next year.
- Fumtumi 6y ago
  My daily work is often not adhoc or that fast; I'm not sure why this is so unrelatable to you but for me, daily business is, that things just take 1-3 weeks. Legal manpower still means, that people interrupt their current tasks, which they properly have plenty of, to reprioritize something, others might even not care about at all or never heard of. I stay with my statement and i have enough live experience, that i don't expect a 3 minute solution and answer from github.com
  - remram 6y ago
    I didn't expect any "3 minute solution", but realistically they didn't even have to get the problem fixed. They could have pledged to assist youtube-dl by now, helped them file a counter-notice sometime this week (surely they can get 1 lawyer's time for pressing PR matters), and figured out how to deal with the human resource situation over the coming months. Instead they found a million dollars (!!!), wrote a blog post with explicit commitments, but then waited on somebody else to step up. It just doesn't add up.
    - Fumtumi 6y ago
      Someone on github had to care for this project; Then someone with the proper level had to care for this and understand the situation. Then you need meetings. You need to 'coordinate' your message or whatever. You need to talk to the legal department and stuff. What is not 'adding up'? And why is it an issue that it took a little bit?
      - remram 6y ago
        I agree with you completely. Someone high-up needs to care for this to get going. GitHub's CEO claimed he cared, October 27: https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1321221940774723584 https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1321221940774723584 The fact that he didn't get a coordinated message or anything at all in the following three weeks shows how much he really did.

remram 6y ago

Why didn't they start with youtube-dl though? They will defend developers and err on their side "going forward" but no not that one? Surely they already had the legal manpower when the youtube-dl removal started making waves. The fact that they did nothing for over three weeks and are publishing this blog post right after the issue was fixed by someone else (EFF) makes it hard to believe their "changes".

JokerDan 6y ago
In large organisations, with lots of tape actually getting the ball rolling on what is proposed with all the sign offs, funds allocated, people/resource allocated for the tasks.... It takes months, not weeks. They probably published this off the back of a signed off proposal and may start implementing off the back of it early next year.
Fumtumi 6y ago
My daily work is often not adhoc or that fast; I'm not sure why this is so unrelatable to you but for me, daily business is, that things just take 1-3 weeks. Legal manpower still means, that people interrupt their current tasks, which they properly have plenty of, to reprioritize something, others might even not care about at all or never heard of. I stay with my statement and i have enough live experience, that i don't expect a 3 minute solution and answer from github.com
- remram 6y ago
  I didn't expect any "3 minute solution", but realistically they didn't even have to get the problem fixed. They could have pledged to assist youtube-dl by now, helped them file a counter-notice sometime this week (surely they can get 1 lawyer's time for pressing PR matters), and figured out how to deal with the human resource situation over the coming months. Instead they found a million dollars (!!!), wrote a blog post with explicit commitments, but then waited on somebody else to step up. It just doesn't add up.
  - Fumtumi 6y ago
    Someone on github had to care for this project; Then someone with the proper level had to care for this and understand the situation. Then you need meetings. You need to 'coordinate' your message or whatever. You need to talk to the legal department and stuff. What is not 'adding up'? And why is it an issue that it took a little bit?
    - remram 6y ago
      I agree with you completely. Someone high-up needs to care for this to get going. GitHub's CEO claimed he cared, October 27: https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1321221940774723584 https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1321221940774723584 The fact that he didn't get a coordinated message or anything at all in the following three weeks shows how much he really did.