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Sex workers have continued to see clients without using masks or observing social distancing rules. Yet they have not been noticed as a particularly affected g

• joshuamorton 6y ago
  Individual interactions 1:1 aren't the primary spread concern. Super spreader events and individuals are. Covid-19 is primarily spread by a small set of individuals who spread it to a large number of people. And people aren't likely to mention the sex worker they saw to a contact tracer, meaning the vector will be overlooked. Combine that with a relatively young demographic, and an ability to control who you interact with fairly carefully.
  • ta8645 6y ago
    So you're saying there are a lot of situations where masks and social distancing aren't important. This is a message you should spread more widely because it is currently lost in the noise.
    • joshuamorton 6y ago
      No. You might, might be able to interpret my comment as saying that for the very unique set of circumstances that involve sex work, masks aren't important. But that still wouldn't be a charitable interpretation. Please follow the hn guidelines. Masks and social distancing are always important, and always reduce the likelihood of spread. There are situations when those aren't possible. For example my dentist can't exactly maintain 6 feet of distance from me at all times. But can I wear a mask while in the office. For that reason we should maintain social distancing and mask precautions where possible, to keep the chance of spread low. While most transmission is via super spreader individuals, you can't know if the one person you give covid-19 will end up a spreader.
      • ta8645 6y ago
        > Individual interactions 1:1 aren't the spread concern I don't think my conclusion from your assertion is abusive to your position. There are many many 1:1 interactions in this world. For instance, we could simply say, as long as your store is low volume, only has 1 cashier, and only lets 1 healthy looking person in at a time, you don't represent a "spread concern". > While most transmission is via super spreader individuals, you can't know if the one person you give covid-19 will end up a spreader. Yet as far as we know, no such event has ever been tracked back to a sex worker. Not conclusive, but if you're honest you have to at least wonder why and if we have some mistaken assumptions in our models.
        • joshuamorton 6y ago
          A cashier is interacting with tens or hundreds of people per day, they aren't taking part in individual interactions. Like I said, you're parsing my comments with an agenda. Please stop.
          • ta8645 6y ago
            > Like I said, you're parsing my comments with an agenda. Please stop. Just because I have an opinion that is different than yours, does not make my attempt at refuting your assertions, or at least showing their weaknesses, any more agenda based than you doing the same to mine. Stop putting yourself in the position of moral superior and arbiter of truth. Make your arguments and refute mine to the best of your ability. I will do the same, thanks. You seem to not want your reasons for dismissing any concern about sex workers considered or applied anywhere else. But that is a good test of their truth, if they can be used to judge other situations too, which is all I was doing.
• watermelon59 6y ago
  Sex work is largely illegal (at least in the US) so there won't be any sort of official data collection on it. There's no legal entity/association/etc. representing them to do that kind of work.
  • ta8645 6y ago
    Yes, but we have a world wide sample to choose from, even countries where it is legal. Yet it has not been identified as a problem point. Not to mention that there is enough awareness of Covid that if there was an issue it would surely be shared informally amongst those workers. Yet, such warnings are absent.
  • tehjoker 6y ago
    There are associations of sex workers that advocate for their rights. Unclear if that's the kind of work they'd want to do.