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Sounds like the author is just making excuses to rationalize his laziness/fear.

by jcapote 15y ago

eropple 15y ago
Alternatively, maybe attitudes like yours are the problem. Look in the mirror.
tehviking 15y ago
This is a terrifyingly accurate assessment. You've drilled into the focus of the article: 1. I'm too lazy to overcome the inertia of not knowing what to do next 2. I'm too scared of rejection or looking dumb The resulting question is: is there an onus on the community to provide additional tools to help the lazy/scared people like me push through these barriers? My opinion is "yes, within limits", but I would also understand if someone said "no".
- eropple 15y ago
  And I assume you would then also understand if people had better things to do than be shat on by that community (in the case of #2). #1 is simply false; when there is little context for how to contribute it is completely understandable that someone may be paralyzed by indecision. It has nothing to do with laziness. Contributing to open-source projects is, in my experience, often more trouble than it's worth--precisely because all too often the people already involved have forgotten (or never had the social capability to know and understand) that #1 is a falsehood and #2 is an eminently reasonable reaction for any remotely normal human being. I still contribute to some projects, but only projects that I or close personal friends maintain. It allows me to tell them to unscrew their heads when they act like the grandparent poster.
  - tehviking 15y ago
    Yeah, I understand and empathize with your viewpoint. I wrote the article and felt like the detractor captured some of the weaknesses I possess that led to its writing.
    - eropple 15y ago
      I'd call it less "weaknesses" and more "normalcy." It's extremely intimidating to deal with certain aspects of the open-source community. Not because you're dumb or stupid or lazy, but because they're kinda, y'know. Crazy. (Note that in some cases it's a very beneficial form of crazy, and is not inherently bad, until it starts becoming an issue with other people.)

Sounds like the author is just making excuses to rationalize his laziness/fear.

by jcapote 15y ago

Sounds like the author is just making excuses to rationalize his laziness/fear.

eropple 15y ago

Alternatively, maybe attitudes like yours are the problem. Look in the mirror.

tehviking 15y ago

This is a terrifyingly accurate assessment. You've drilled into the focus of the article: 1. I'm too lazy to overcome the inertia of not knowing what to do next 2. I'm too scared of rejection or looking dumb The resulting question is: is there an onus on the community to provide additional tools to help the lazy/scared people like me push through these barriers? My opinion is "yes, within limits", but I would also understand if someone said "no".

eropple 15y ago
And I assume you would then also understand if people had better things to do than be shat on by that community (in the case of #2). #1 is simply false; when there is little context for how to contribute it is completely understandable that someone may be paralyzed by indecision. It has nothing to do with laziness. Contributing to open-source projects is, in my experience, often more trouble than it's worth--precisely because all too often the people already involved have forgotten (or never had the social capability to know and understand) that #1 is a falsehood and #2 is an eminently reasonable reaction for any remotely normal human being. I still contribute to some projects, but only projects that I or close personal friends maintain. It allows me to tell them to unscrew their heads when they act like the grandparent poster.
- tehviking 15y ago
  Yeah, I understand and empathize with your viewpoint. I wrote the article and felt like the detractor captured some of the weaknesses I possess that led to its writing.
  - eropple 15y ago
    I'd call it less "weaknesses" and more "normalcy." It's extremely intimidating to deal with certain aspects of the open-source community. Not because you're dumb or stupid or lazy, but because they're kinda, y'know. Crazy. (Note that in some cases it's a very beneficial form of crazy, and is not inherently bad, until it starts becoming an issue with other people.)