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Quite a jaded view of the world. This is more that just a boutique industry - this is how a lot of our food makes it to our tables; the part that hasn't been re

by zucked 6y ago

Quite a jaded view of the world. This is more that just a boutique industry - this is how a lot of our food makes it to our tables; the part that hasn't been relentlessly mechanized, automated, and conglomerated, anyways. Is it a bit romanticized? Perhaps. But, there are thousands of these small-scale "boutique" operations around the country in all sorts of industries. How quickly we've forgotten that this is how it used to be done.

throwaway0a5e 6y ago
>Quite a jaded view of the world. I grew up in one of these sorts of tourism places. Just because some people make a living doing Actual Things(TM) doesn't mean that having a large portion of the economy be tourism related does not have negative effects for pretty much everyone. >this is how a lot of our food makes it to our tables; And someone dicking around fixing heavy equipment in the mud is how the table became your table but you don't see people romanticizing the timber industry because for the most part it isn't associated with tourism the way waterfront communities (and by extension, their industries) are. The fishing industry exists as much to give the tourists something to look at so the captains' wives/friends/relatives can run successful restaurants and bars (and fish the tourists wallets) as it does to pull edible animals out of the water. On a community level this is all pretty soul crushing because your existence is predicated on your ability to basically put on a show for others (i.e. look quaint) but pretend that you're just this quaint naturally.
- pm90 6y ago
  > On a community level this is all pretty soul crushing because your existence is predicated on your ability to basically put on a show for others (i.e. look quaint). So, like all of Hollywood? : ) It seems like in your book, “putting on a show for others” is somehow a distasteful means of living. However, many people enjoy this lifestyle. Reinventing something as basic as fishing into an “experience” for tourists, most of who are likely city dwellers who would never get to experience this, seems like a win win to me, and honestly something we could get other industries involved in. You mention the timber industry... if there were places that would allow me to cut down trees with a chainsaw, I would actually be interested in that! As more of human society urbanizes, we’re going to see a lot more demand for these “experiences”.
  - zucked 6y ago
    I had a long response typed out, but you said it better than I could. I think humans have a desire to work with their hands and see the fruits of those labor. As more and more of us push paper and sling 1's and 0's, we're losing that connection and seeing the outcome in things like "Experience" tourism and the romanticizing of hard work. Look at what is popular on Youtube - 'mustie1' fixes junk with his hands in 30 minute videos for nearly 500k subscribers. 'Primitive Technology' replicate(d) societal development for 10.3M subscribers. Nobody is arguing that this work is hard. Sorry if the "theatre" of it bothers you, but I think it's a net societal benefit to help reconnect people back to "artisan" and "boutique" ways of living. We still need those people - think of tourism as a recruiting tool.

by zucked 6y ago

throwaway0a5e 6y ago

>Quite a jaded view of the world. I grew up in one of these sorts of tourism places. Just because some people make a living doing Actual Things(TM) doesn't mean that having a large portion of the economy be tourism related does not have negative effects for pretty much everyone. >this is how a lot of our food makes it to our tables; And someone dicking around fixing heavy equipment in the mud is how the table became your table but you don't see people romanticizing the timber industry because for the most part it isn't associated with tourism the way waterfront communities (and by extension, their industries) are. The fishing industry exists as much to give the tourists something to look at so the captains' wives/friends/relatives can run successful restaurants and bars (and fish the tourists wallets) as it does to pull edible animals out of the water. On a community level this is all pretty soul crushing because your existence is predicated on your ability to basically put on a show for others (i.e. look quaint) but pretend that you're just this quaint naturally.

pm90 6y ago
> On a community level this is all pretty soul crushing because your existence is predicated on your ability to basically put on a show for others (i.e. look quaint). So, like all of Hollywood? : ) It seems like in your book, “putting on a show for others” is somehow a distasteful means of living. However, many people enjoy this lifestyle. Reinventing something as basic as fishing into an “experience” for tourists, most of who are likely city dwellers who would never get to experience this, seems like a win win to me, and honestly something we could get other industries involved in. You mention the timber industry... if there were places that would allow me to cut down trees with a chainsaw, I would actually be interested in that! As more of human society urbanizes, we’re going to see a lot more demand for these “experiences”.
- zucked 6y ago
  I had a long response typed out, but you said it better than I could. I think humans have a desire to work with their hands and see the fruits of those labor. As more and more of us push paper and sling 1's and 0's, we're losing that connection and seeing the outcome in things like "Experience" tourism and the romanticizing of hard work. Look at what is popular on Youtube - 'mustie1' fixes junk with his hands in 30 minute videos for nearly 500k subscribers. 'Primitive Technology' replicate(d) societal development for 10.3M subscribers. Nobody is arguing that this work is hard. Sorry if the "theatre" of it bothers you, but I think it's a net societal benefit to help reconnect people back to "artisan" and "boutique" ways of living. We still need those people - think of tourism as a recruiting tool.