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I disagree with this and tend to agree with OP. Yes, food companies make crap food, but you don’t have to eat it. You don’t need to eat the volume of it most pe

I disagree with this and tend to agree with OP. Yes, food companies make crap food, but you don’t have to eat it. You don’t need to eat the volume of it most people do. We’ve known it’s crap food for years now. However, you can have 1 cupcake or 1 pizza every now and then and be a healthy weight. You can’t have 10 cupcakes a day and be a healthy weight. Let’s not discount exercise as well - a bad diet can partly be overcome with an active lifestyle.

rootusrootus 6y ago
I didn't say personal responsibility didn't play any part, just that it's not the only part. Obesity is not a simple moral failing, we could hold our own society to better standards and everybody would be healthier. Half the population didn't get fat just because they're all lazy.
- PaulKeeble 6y ago
  It might surprise people that in the last 150 years people are actually doing more exercise than they ever have before with a lot more science behind what they do for better results. Even with that as the backdrop obesity has shot up. It is not just lazy people, it is bad food and the science that says its great that underpins it all.
tayo42 6y ago
> You don’t need to eat the volume of it most people do The push for food companies to remove fat and replace with sugar would contribute. Fat will make you feel full. Everything is low fat and uses high fructose corn syrup to make it taste good.
- bluedevil2k 6y ago
  > Everything is low fat and uses high fructose corn syrup to make it taste good. No, all the crap food fits that description. A chicken breast and some broccoli does not. Again, it’s a decision that must be made - eat crap food and struggle with a healthy weight, eat healthy real food and proper portions and (usually) be a healthy weight.
  - tayo42 6y ago
    I don't think it's so simple. No one gorges on broccoli. It's filled with fiber, another thing that will fill you up. Sugar in foods also trigger a feel good response from dopamine. It's addictive. Education about healthy eating is important, but sugar is a problem.

rootusrootus 6y ago

I didn't say personal responsibility didn't play any part, just that it's not the only part. Obesity is not a simple moral failing, we could hold our own society to better standards and everybody would be healthier. Half the population didn't get fat just because they're all lazy.

PaulKeeble 6y ago
It might surprise people that in the last 150 years people are actually doing more exercise than they ever have before with a lot more science behind what they do for better results. Even with that as the backdrop obesity has shot up. It is not just lazy people, it is bad food and the science that says its great that underpins it all.

tayo42 6y ago

> You don’t need to eat the volume of it most people do The push for food companies to remove fat and replace with sugar would contribute. Fat will make you feel full. Everything is low fat and uses high fructose corn syrup to make it taste good.

bluedevil2k 6y ago
> Everything is low fat and uses high fructose corn syrup to make it taste good. No, all the crap food fits that description. A chicken breast and some broccoli does not. Again, it’s a decision that must be made - eat crap food and struggle with a healthy weight, eat healthy real food and proper portions and (usually) be a healthy weight.
- tayo42 6y ago
  I don't think it's so simple. No one gorges on broccoli. It's filled with fiber, another thing that will fill you up. Sugar in foods also trigger a feel good response from dopamine. It's addictive. Education about healthy eating is important, but sugar is a problem.