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Everyone upvoting this, please read the (now) top rated comment and take a step back to think about how this line of thinking is destroying our society right no

by planb 6y ago

Everyone upvoting this, please read the (now) top rated comment and take a step back to think about how this line of thinking is destroying our society right now. If something fits your world view (Apple is evil) you stop looking for more evidence and join your tribe. Feels good, but only helps to spread misinformation.

trevyn 6y ago
Is thinking that everyone’s behavior is due to cognitive bias a cognitive bias itself?
- lxgr 6y ago
  Of course there is :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_blind_spot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_blind_spot It doesn't render GPs point moot, though.
AlexandrB 6y ago
The top rated comment is also misleading. This functionality (filtering Apple app traffic using Little Snitch) used to be possible before Apple made it impossible. The fact that you can still route Apple app traffic through a system-wide VPN doesn't change that a bunch of more-selective firewalls/VPNs have effectively been nerfed by Apple's actions. So yes, Apple is in the wrong. Edit: The article headline is technically accurate (if a little clickbaity): "Apple apps on Big Sur bypass firewalls and VPNs". Yes the do! Not all firewalls. But they bypass some of the most popular ones, like Little Snitch.
- Sirened 6y ago
  I mean, I'm not close to Little Snitch's development but I'm pretty sure they used to use a kernel extension. Kernel extensions are deprecated but they aren't going anywhere anytime soon since it seems like Apple just built a brand new kext loading system to handle static kernelcaches
- blub 6y ago
  The top rated comment from wizee seems correct. There are several technologies involved: * system-wide VPNs - apparently work as before * software firewalls - some Apple apps not blocked * per-app VPNs - These are designed to tunnel traffic of a specific app through e.g. a corporate VPN and frankly have no connection to the topic.
- planb 6y ago
  I was talking about the comment I replied to, not the original article. I have no problem with that article or people upvoting it (I did so myself).

by planb 6y ago

trevyn 6y ago

Is thinking that everyone’s behavior is due to cognitive bias a cognitive bias itself?

lxgr 6y ago
Of course there is :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_blind_spot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_blind_spot It doesn't render GPs point moot, though.

AlexandrB 6y ago

The top rated comment is also misleading. This functionality (filtering Apple app traffic using Little Snitch) used to be possible before Apple made it impossible. The fact that you can still route Apple app traffic through a system-wide VPN doesn't change that a bunch of more-selective firewalls/VPNs have effectively been nerfed by Apple's actions. So yes, Apple is in the wrong. Edit: The article headline is technically accurate (if a little clickbaity): "Apple apps on Big Sur bypass firewalls and VPNs". Yes the do! Not all firewalls. But they bypass some of the most popular ones, like Little Snitch.

Sirened 6y ago
I mean, I'm not close to Little Snitch's development but I'm pretty sure they used to use a kernel extension. Kernel extensions are deprecated but they aren't going anywhere anytime soon since it seems like Apple just built a brand new kext loading system to handle static kernelcaches
blub 6y ago
The top rated comment from wizee seems correct. There are several technologies involved: * system-wide VPNs - apparently work as before * software firewalls - some Apple apps not blocked * per-app VPNs - These are designed to tunnel traffic of a specific app through e.g. a corporate VPN and frankly have no connection to the topic.
planb 6y ago
I was talking about the comment I replied to, not the original article. I have no problem with that article or people upvoting it (I did so myself).