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Well, I would say that two months are still missing before the end of the year, so we are comparing 10 vs 12 months if my understanding is correct.
by pw6hv 6y ago
Well, I would say that two months are still missing before the end of the year, so we are comparing 10 vs 12 months if my understanding is correct.
- wobbegongz 6y agoLag in reporting also. So more like 9 vs 12.
- TheCapn 6y agoAre there direct comparisons with other countries for the same reporting period?
- pmontra 6y agoSome sources that could be useful https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Weekly_death_statistics&stable https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php... https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Weekly_death_statistics&stable#Number_of_deaths_higher_than_in_previous_years https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php...
- sharkmerry 6y agoTechnically yes, but dividing by number of days past and multiplying by total in the year you get ~88,411, so technically under. they also noted this "Sweden was the Nordic country that reported the highest number of COVID-19 deaths in 2020."
- diegoperini 6y agoAlso, deaths caused by non-covid flu like diseases should have decreased due to lockdowns and hygiene awareness.
- piker 6y ago> should have decreased due to lockdowns and hygiene awareness Point is, Sweden arguably opted for none of this.
- davrosthedalek 6y agoMandated lockdown != lockdown. I would be quite surprised if Swedes didn't use more soap this year, and went to restaurants less.
- zepto 6y agoSweden had no lockdowns.
- roca 6y agoPeople keep saying this but it's misleading. Swedish authorities have issued many directives that weren't legally enforceable but which they expected Swedes to follow, and most Swedes did follow them. Surely whether or not a directive formally has legal backing is not that important to whether we call a measure "a lockdown"; what is important is the impact on behavior. For example Swedes in many regions have been asked to refrain from social contact outside their household for the last month. When that happens in other countries it's called a "lockdown". From April to October no visitors to rest homes were permitted; regardless of the legal status that seems like a kind of lockdown. Anyway the "no legally enforced lockdown" era just ended in Sweden. They have introduced law-backed restrictions: https://www.thelocal.se/20201116/breaking-sweden-introduces-limit-of-eight-coronavirus https://www.thelocal.se/20201116/breaking-sweden-introduces-...
- zepto 6y agoI think it’s pretty fair to say they had no lockdowns. I suspect the fact that they weren’t legally enforcable may have increased responsible behavior.
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- sdenton4 6y agoYeah, posting this with a different title from the page is forcing an editorialized view onto data which just doesn't support the title. There's no way to tell excess deaths from this one incomplete chart. I've flagged the post as a result. That said, 12/10 * 77.5k = 92.7k, which is at the high end for the charted period. Adding an extra month's worth of late reports gives 13/10 * 77.5k = 100.5k. So, probably reasonable to guess that the real deaths are somewhere between these two, which definitely doesn't support the 'no excess deaths' claim in the post title. It would be nice to see something closer to the CDC's ongoing excess deaths tracking: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm