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The amount of publicity this generated for youtube-dl is astounding... I would love for this to be a ”the plan to get rid of youtube-dl backfired badly for RIAA
by Torkel 6y ago
The amount of publicity this generated for youtube-dl is astounding... I would love for this to be a ”the plan to get rid of youtube-dl backfired badly for RIAA” ending. But I guess RIAA is reviled enough already so nothing they do really matters. So I suppose the hope is that some political will to change the laws around this arises from it.
- xbar 6y agoTrue. It seems we need to wait for a generation of media-consuming legislators to age into the Senate to get past The Eagles complaining that their music is being "pirated" on Tik Tok.
- toomuchtodo 6y agoWait? No, no need to wait. Run for office, push out the dinosaurs. "The chief penalty [of good people who refuse to lead] is to be governed by someone worse." -- Plato
- okareaman 6y agoAs someone who is old enough to have heard The Eagles when they first came out, this is hilarious. No offense to Eagles fans, but they were mostly forgettable Top 40 from the get go.
- mschuster91 6y ago> So I suppose the hope is that some political will to change the laws around this arises from it. We had mass demonstrations across Europe with the Article 13 fiasco and nothing happened. Revolutions aside, copyright will never be reformed anywhere in a consumer friendly manner - politicians are way too deep in the pockets of the industry.
- DarkWiiPlayer 6y agoAll the parties that were pro reform in the "article 13 fiasco" will still get votes. Unless people grow a brain and start remembering things, they will just get away with anything unless it happens right before an election. Alas, we evolved from monkeys, not from elephants.
- torstenvl 6y agoHonestly, this is what caused me to install it. Have downloaded one video so far - a U.S. government work, so no copyright.
- boomboomsubban 6y agoIf the RIAA notice is to be believed, you've still admitted to a crime as you've bypassed YouTube's DRM, which is their hosting of the video in other public links.
- Gaelan 6y agoIIRC, YouTube actually does apply extra DRM to some videos (ones "owned" by the RIAA, maybe others?)
- boomboomsubban 6y agoNope, they argued that their URL obfuscation is DRM. edit I think YouTube-Red's successor has DRM on it's videos, I don't think youtube-dl ever worked on them though.
- crtasm 6y agoThe video torstenvl downloaded wouldn't have had the rolling cipher on it.
- boomboomsubban 6y agoFrom my understanding, every video has the rolling cipher as it is just what YouTube calls the links the media files are at.
- crtasm 6y agoMy understanding is in general a fixed signature is used, only certain content has the rolling cipher. If all videos used the same system then youtube-dl would not have had any reason to make major label music videos part of their unit tests.
- scaramanga 6y agoI don't think it's about whether they're reviled enough yet, but rather whether the actions they're taking are likely to engender effective activism and organised political opposition to their agenda. In this case, it looks like they've discovered that the community isn't asleep at the wheel and that this isn't the hill they want to die on.
- jraph 6y agoSome clever people working for the RIAA might have suggested to their lawyers that they take down the youtube-dl repository to generate some publicity around the project. And now they are pretending "What is this youtube-dl thing everybody is talking about recently?" RIAA, you are heroes. That's very nice to promote underfunded free software projects like this.
- Fice 6y agoI don't believe that RIAA's real intention was simply to get rid of youtube-dl. This was probably just a show to push for more DRM on the Web.