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Kind of ironic to click the link only to be presented with a cookie popup that defaults to all tracking enabled.
by emsy 6y ago
Kind of ironic to click the link only to be presented with a cookie popup that defaults to all tracking enabled.
- MaxBarraclough 6y agoIt also detects Firefox's Private Browsing and tells me that reading in Private Browsing is a privilege for paying subscribers.
- KMnO4 6y agoHow does it do that? Mozilla spends a great deal of effort to make sure this type of fingerprinting isn’t possible.
- wffurr 6y agoThere is a lot more money on the other side of that arms race.
- shakna 6y agoindexedDB is the short answer. Whilst Mozilla has made efforts to make it harder, there is still a bunch of things that don't work the same way in private mode, which can provide a best guess as to whether you're in private mode. indexedDB isn't implemented in Firefox's private mode. [0] So if you can guess that it is Firefox, and can't use indexedDB, then you can guess that you're in private mode. [0] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1639542 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1639542
- MaxBarraclough 6y agoDoes Chromium do the same thing? The page is able to detect incognito mode in Chromium Edge. The page even uses the browser-specific terminology, private mode for Firefox, incognito mode for Chromium Edge.
- shakna 6y agoNo, indexedDB not working is a Firefox-specific thing. But there are other differences you can look for under Chrome, the simplest of which is that navigator.storage is smaller whilst incognito mode is active. And under Safari you can just check if localStorage actually stores things.
- oofoe 6y agoThe lack of fingerprinting information is, in itself, a data point.
- MaxBarraclough 6y agoThat wouldn't be able to distinguish between Private Browsing and having just cleared out browser data, though.
- eli 6y agoThere are features like IndexedDB that are disabled in private browsing but not in a clean install
- zrm 6y ago> It also detects Firefox's Private Browsing and tells me that reading in Private Browsing is a privilege for paying subscribers. Wait, so if I don't want to be tracked, their solution is to sign in to an account which is tied to my meatspace name and credit card?
- IfOnlyYouKnew 6y agoI think it nicely shows the independence of the newsrooms, in that they report on matters of online privacy like any other topic, even though it is close to the financial interests of their publisher, who stands to lose from any increase of privacy requirements.
- oneeyedpigeon 6y agoEven rejecting all cookies results in you receiving 18 cookies. They're presumably all unrelated to tracking, but it's still not exactly a good experience.
- mwexler 6y agoAre they perm cookies? Session cookies AFAIK are allowed under the US and EU privacy regs and are necessary for some sites to function, for better or worse.
- oneeyedpigeon 6y agoLooks like about 80% are longer than the session and about half are 1-2 years. If you need 18 cookies for your site to even function, you're doing something wrong IMO.
- ce4 6y agoI use a combination of uMatrix and bypass-paywalls-chrome from iamadamdev on Github to bypass that.
- lhoff 6y agoMaybe the link should be changed to https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-files-complaints-against-apples-tracking-code-idfa https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-files-complaints-against-apples-trac... Thats the official press release of Schrems organization.