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I think the jury is still out on what the the 100% correct treatment of gout or many of the modern life style related sickness. But many can be cured by revers

I think the jury is still out on what the the 100% correct treatment of gout or many of the modern life style related sickness. But many can be cured by reversing what one eat to what people ate 100 years ago or 20.000 years ago. 100 years would mean no processed food, vegetable oils and a lot less sugar. 20.000 years would also remove all type of wheat and corns. Here is a guy who cured gout with the carnivore diet. https://meatrx.com/category/success-stories/gout/ https://meatrx.com/category/success-stories/gout/

onion2k 6y ago
100 years would mean no processed food, vegetable oils and a lot less sugar. But a lot more salt.
- sethammons 6y ago
  On mobile so I won’t be looking up a source. Was listening to a pod cast from a a cardiac specialist whose position was that higher salt intake is not as important for heart and artery health as long as you have balanced exercise and hydration. His point was that excessive carbohydrates lead to inflammation which leads to plaque build up which leads to heart disease. But salt can be ok.
  - slfnflctd 6y ago
    There might also be evidence that as with so many other things, different people require different amounts. My partner consistently shows low sodium in their blood work, yet eats way more salt than I do (my blood results are normal) and craves saltier things. They will put salt on already-salted foods that I consider too salty already.
    - CyberDildonics 6y ago
      How much is 'different people' and how much is different actions? Is eating salt a 1:1 direct cause of high sodium or is it relative to hydration, exercise, and other factors?
      - slfnflctd 6y ago
        I'm quite certain it's relative. Hydration and exercise are huge factors. I'm not sure how common it is now, but construction workers in hot climates were often given straight salt tablets to swallow in the past-- with as much water & exercise as they get, it's actually necessary to prevent Hyponatremia. They're probably more into energy drinks these days. Anyway, the person I was thinking of also seems to take in less fluids and get less exercise than I do on average, further compounding the difference for us in particular. That's part of why I mentioned our case, it's more extreme the closer you look.
mschuster91 6y ago
> 100 years would mean no vegetable oils Huh? Olive oil was known to at least the Greeks and Romans, and some disputed citation on Wikipedia even says that olives were harvested even 8.000 years BC.
- jessaustin 6y ago
  Diets are more universal now. In many locations, in the recent past, frying would have been done with lard rather than vegetable oil. One can make lard from pigs that one raises in the backyard. I don't even know what a canola plant looks like, and olive trees tend not to like climates that freeze for months at a time.
- trevyn 6y ago
  Perhaps he meant refined vegetable oil? Also, I think seed oils in particular were much less common 100 years ago.

onion2k 6y ago

100 years would mean no processed food, vegetable oils and a lot less sugar. But a lot more salt.

sethammons 6y ago
On mobile so I won’t be looking up a source. Was listening to a pod cast from a a cardiac specialist whose position was that higher salt intake is not as important for heart and artery health as long as you have balanced exercise and hydration. His point was that excessive carbohydrates lead to inflammation which leads to plaque build up which leads to heart disease. But salt can be ok.
- slfnflctd 6y ago
  There might also be evidence that as with so many other things, different people require different amounts. My partner consistently shows low sodium in their blood work, yet eats way more salt than I do (my blood results are normal) and craves saltier things. They will put salt on already-salted foods that I consider too salty already.
  - CyberDildonics 6y ago
    How much is 'different people' and how much is different actions? Is eating salt a 1:1 direct cause of high sodium or is it relative to hydration, exercise, and other factors?
    - slfnflctd 6y ago
      I'm quite certain it's relative. Hydration and exercise are huge factors. I'm not sure how common it is now, but construction workers in hot climates were often given straight salt tablets to swallow in the past-- with as much water & exercise as they get, it's actually necessary to prevent Hyponatremia. They're probably more into energy drinks these days. Anyway, the person I was thinking of also seems to take in less fluids and get less exercise than I do on average, further compounding the difference for us in particular. That's part of why I mentioned our case, it's more extreme the closer you look.

mschuster91 6y ago

> 100 years would mean no vegetable oils Huh? Olive oil was known to at least the Greeks and Romans, and some disputed citation on Wikipedia even says that olives were harvested even 8.000 years BC.

jessaustin 6y ago
Diets are more universal now. In many locations, in the recent past, frying would have been done with lard rather than vegetable oil. One can make lard from pigs that one raises in the backyard. I don't even know what a canola plant looks like, and olive trees tend not to like climates that freeze for months at a time.
trevyn 6y ago
Perhaps he meant refined vegetable oil? Also, I think seed oils in particular were much less common 100 years ago.