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Assuming this is real, it is absolutely reckless and just not needed for kidneys. They can stay on ice for 24 hours or longer. Nobody ever needed an emergency k

Assuming this is real, it is absolutely reckless and just not needed for kidneys. They can stay on ice for 24 hours or longer. Nobody ever needed an emergency kidney transplant, thanks to dialysis. Even if a helipad wasn’t on the hospital any clearing would do. And if the weather was too poor you use an ambulance or special transport going at a safer speed, which would still get there with time to spare.

simonebrunozzi 6y ago
Well, how can I say this? Welcome to Italy, my friend. The country that gave the world Leonardo and Galileo and Michelangelo, and the country where these things happen, where a police force has a few Lamborghinis (I was overtaken by one, nearby Rome, ~15 years ago) that regularly travel well above 100mph even if it's not necessary, whose cost would cover several "normal" police cars. And a country where sometimes when there is a problem and an "Italian-style" solution, that solution is implemented. Helicopters? Kidneys can stay in ice for several hours? Who cares, the police transported a kidney at 250 km/h, and proudly tweeted about it. I'm Italian; I am fully authorized to make some fun of my own country. But, before you say "absolutely reckless", you should know that the "autostrada" between Padova and Roma is very well built, and that the policemen driving the Lambo are really good drivers. A bit reckless? Maybe. There's worse in the world.
- LeCow 6y ago
  Sir, this is the internet police. We will need to see your "full authorization documents" to prove that you're permitted to make fun of Italy. I mean Italy is really easy to make fun of either way, you only have to take a look at the government and history to realise that.
  - simonebrunozzi 6y ago
    Yep :)
- hilbert42 6y ago
  I love visiting Italy, and it's great to visit a country where the drivers—and everyone—have attitude. However, when you come from a nanny state with Namby-pamby road rules like I do, it takes a bit of getting used to driving in Italy. The last time I had to drive from Genoa to Rome I was overtaken so often I thought I'd be better off with a low-flying jet despite driving at about as fast as my cheap rental car would go! Mind you, that spirit it doesn't always bode well for the locals. Once in Firenze at a 90° T intersection with the road that follows the bank of the Arno, I saw that the traffic lights were out and stuck on red, so traffic couldn't veer off down the intersecting road. Not to be outdone, mopeds and small cars just mounted the sidewalk and bypassed the red lights altogether (by going down the sidewalk they technically weren't going though the red lights (now where they?). Now, that's good lateral thinking but it would never happen where I come from. Unfortunately, there was a huge ditch in the sidewalk some 10/15 metres down from the intersection that wasn't easily seen when one turned the corner. The result was that this enormous hole (almost a sinkhole in size) was full of busted mopeds and small cars! Nevertheless, I give them 10/10 for ingenuity. ;-) BTW, I saw this news report about the police using a Lamborghini to transport a donor organ on TV last night. There didn't seem anything unusual about the story (for Italy anyway) and Lamborghini had donated the car to police some time back specifically for purposes like that. Seems they did AOK and I hope the patient is doing well.
xyzal 6y ago
Sorry, there is correlation between graft function post-transplant and length of the so called "cold ischaemia time". https://www.kidney-international.org/article/S0085-2538(15)30070-3/fulltext https://www.kidney-international.org/article/S0085-2538(15)3...
- CapriciousCptl 6y ago
  Did you actually read that article? It supports what I said-- we're talking 16+ hours before studies notice any difference at all, and even that difference is disputed. In fact, here's a quote from the article, "The risk of graft failure was small when CIT was shorter than 36h." Simply put, the difference in CIT between 2 hours and 5 hours isn't outweighed by driving 150mph on a public road for 2 hours.

simonebrunozzi 6y ago

Well, how can I say this? Welcome to Italy, my friend. The country that gave the world Leonardo and Galileo and Michelangelo, and the country where these things happen, where a police force has a few Lamborghinis (I was overtaken by one, nearby Rome, ~15 years ago) that regularly travel well above 100mph even if it's not necessary, whose cost would cover several "normal" police cars. And a country where sometimes when there is a problem and an "Italian-style" solution, that solution is implemented. Helicopters? Kidneys can stay in ice for several hours? Who cares, the police transported a kidney at 250 km/h, and proudly tweeted about it. I'm Italian; I am fully authorized to make some fun of my own country. But, before you say "absolutely reckless", you should know that the "autostrada" between Padova and Roma is very well built, and that the policemen driving the Lambo are really good drivers. A bit reckless? Maybe. There's worse in the world.

LeCow 6y ago
Sir, this is the internet police. We will need to see your "full authorization documents" to prove that you're permitted to make fun of Italy. I mean Italy is really easy to make fun of either way, you only have to take a look at the government and history to realise that.
- simonebrunozzi 6y ago
  Yep :)
hilbert42 6y ago
I love visiting Italy, and it's great to visit a country where the drivers—and everyone—have attitude. However, when you come from a nanny state with Namby-pamby road rules like I do, it takes a bit of getting used to driving in Italy. The last time I had to drive from Genoa to Rome I was overtaken so often I thought I'd be better off with a low-flying jet despite driving at about as fast as my cheap rental car would go! Mind you, that spirit it doesn't always bode well for the locals. Once in Firenze at a 90° T intersection with the road that follows the bank of the Arno, I saw that the traffic lights were out and stuck on red, so traffic couldn't veer off down the intersecting road. Not to be outdone, mopeds and small cars just mounted the sidewalk and bypassed the red lights altogether (by going down the sidewalk they technically weren't going though the red lights (now where they?). Now, that's good lateral thinking but it would never happen where I come from. Unfortunately, there was a huge ditch in the sidewalk some 10/15 metres down from the intersection that wasn't easily seen when one turned the corner. The result was that this enormous hole (almost a sinkhole in size) was full of busted mopeds and small cars! Nevertheless, I give them 10/10 for ingenuity. ;-) BTW, I saw this news report about the police using a Lamborghini to transport a donor organ on TV last night. There didn't seem anything unusual about the story (for Italy anyway) and Lamborghini had donated the car to police some time back specifically for purposes like that. Seems they did AOK and I hope the patient is doing well.

xyzal 6y ago

Sorry, there is correlation between graft function post-transplant and length of the so called "cold ischaemia time". https://www.kidney-international.org/article/S0085-2538(15)30070-3/fulltext https://www.kidney-international.org/article/S0085-2538(15)3...

CapriciousCptl 6y ago
Did you actually read that article? It supports what I said-- we're talking 16+ hours before studies notice any difference at all, and even that difference is disputed. In fact, here's a quote from the article, "The risk of graft failure was small when CIT was shorter than 36h." Simply put, the difference in CIT between 2 hours and 5 hours isn't outweighed by driving 150mph on a public road for 2 hours.