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There's no comparison to how blacks were treated in America, we are not barbarians. There's no colored bathrooms and stuff like that. They have all the legal r

There's no comparison to how blacks were treated in America, we are not barbarians. There's no colored bathrooms and stuff like that. They have all the legal right as any citizen to own propert, start companies, hire others, etc. Further more there a lot of positive discrimination by guaranteeing them seats in Universities, etc.

1024core 6y ago
> There's no comparison to how blacks were treated in America, we are not barbarians. There's no colored bathrooms and stuff like that. At least in America now there are laws specifically disallowing discrimination against blacks and minorities. But it appears in Romania and the rest of Eastern Europe there is still widespread discrimination against the Roma. Looks pretty barbaric to me!
- fierarul 6y ago
  Yeah, sure, other countries don't have such laws. And your laws are clearly working very well considering the events this year.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > > There's no comparison to how blacks were treated in America, we are not barbarians. There's no colored bathrooms and stuff like that. > At least in America now there are laws specifically disallowing discrimination against blacks and minorities. But it appears in Romania and the rest of Eastern Europe there is still widespread discrimination against the Roma. Looks pretty barbaric to me! You are comparing laws on the books on one place with practice in another. There is widespread discrimination against blacks in the US, despite the existence of laws prohibiting it. To the point that white supremacists have expressed confidence that local police throughout the country will stand aside for them to commit murder against blacks and/or people seeking accountability for crimes against blacks without any need for direct coordination or specific inside coconspirators, and those sentiments have been validated. Plus, GP didn't offer a comparison to current treatment of blacks in America, but basically to treatment before the mid-20th century civil rights movement, when there were not such laws. When someone does that to reject that their treatment of someone else is barbaric, you don't need to shift the ground and try to do an apples to oranges comparison to something else, you can just say that the bar they have set is too low to reject the characterization of barbarism even if taken as true.
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monocasa 6y ago
> There's no comparison to how blacks were treated in America, we are not barbarians. They've literally been genocided with few Europeans actually caring at the end of the day (the holocaust killed almost a third of them). They're arguably treated worse than blacks in America. The way Roma are and have been treated is pretty much definition barbaric.
- fierarul 6y ago
  Was there some war going on when you had legalized racial segregation? Some foreign troops on US soil I don't know about?
mariusor 6y ago
> There's no comparison to how blacks were treated in America, we are not barbarians. According to Wikipedia[1] (as I have no other sources at hand) gypsies have been slaves in Romania for most of the period since the Romanian Principalities' inception in the 13th, 14th century until 1864. I think 400+ years of indentured servitude and slavery paints Romania as quite barbaric. You should probably reconsider your biases. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Romania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Romania

1024core 6y ago

> There's no comparison to how blacks were treated in America, we are not barbarians. There's no colored bathrooms and stuff like that. At least in America now there are laws specifically disallowing discrimination against blacks and minorities. But it appears in Romania and the rest of Eastern Europe there is still widespread discrimination against the Roma. Looks pretty barbaric to me!

fierarul 6y ago
Yeah, sure, other countries don't have such laws. And your laws are clearly working very well considering the events this year.
dragonwriter 6y ago
> > There's no comparison to how blacks were treated in America, we are not barbarians. There's no colored bathrooms and stuff like that. > At least in America now there are laws specifically disallowing discrimination against blacks and minorities. But it appears in Romania and the rest of Eastern Europe there is still widespread discrimination against the Roma. Looks pretty barbaric to me! You are comparing laws on the books on one place with practice in another. There is widespread discrimination against blacks in the US, despite the existence of laws prohibiting it. To the point that white supremacists have expressed confidence that local police throughout the country will stand aside for them to commit murder against blacks and/or people seeking accountability for crimes against blacks without any need for direct coordination or specific inside coconspirators, and those sentiments have been validated. Plus, GP didn't offer a comparison to current treatment of blacks in America, but basically to treatment before the mid-20th century civil rights movement, when there were not such laws. When someone does that to reject that their treatment of someone else is barbaric, you don't need to shift the ground and try to do an apples to oranges comparison to something else, you can just say that the bar they have set is too low to reject the characterization of barbarism even if taken as true.
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monocasa 6y ago

> There's no comparison to how blacks were treated in America, we are not barbarians. They've literally been genocided with few Europeans actually caring at the end of the day (the holocaust killed almost a third of them). They're arguably treated worse than blacks in America. The way Roma are and have been treated is pretty much definition barbaric.

fierarul 6y ago
Was there some war going on when you had legalized racial segregation? Some foreign troops on US soil I don't know about?

mariusor 6y ago

> There's no comparison to how blacks were treated in America, we are not barbarians. According to Wikipedia[1] (as I have no other sources at hand) gypsies have been slaves in Romania for most of the period since the Romanian Principalities' inception in the 13th, 14th century until 1864. I think 400+ years of indentured servitude and slavery paints Romania as quite barbaric. You should probably reconsider your biases. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Romania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Romania