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> After nearly 13 years of usage I am a happy user of Windows 10 now. All right, then I really need to ask: it took you 13 years of using Ubuntu unhappily befo

> After nearly 13 years of usage I am a happy user of Windows 10 now. All right, then I really need to ask: it took you 13 years of using Ubuntu unhappily before you decided to switch to Windows? > Horrible font rendering that makes me not even want to code I know every system does font rendering a bit differently, and what people like to see really seems to have a big subjective factor it. Personally, I've always had a preference to how fonts are rendered on, for example, Ubuntu compared to Windows 10, especially with 2x scaling on high-DPI displays, but I acknowledge everyone's different. > But the most important thing is that I am just tired of tinkering. Nowadays I just want to open my computer and get on my programming job and have everything just work. Not disagreeing with you on this point. However, when it comes to "tinkering", I find all the cloud-connected nonsense and "extras" that Windows comes with turned on and thrown in your face by default after an install a much bigger annoyance, and I often have to go digging through all kinds of settings windows to get a good deal of that turned off, and even then it's not always possible (see telemetry, for example). A new Windows 10 install is a lot more effort in "tinkering" with all the settings into some sane configuration than any Linux distro where you're not compiling your own kernel and/or packages (and maybe even then).

jbirer 6y ago
>All right, then I really need to ask: it took you 13 years of using Ubuntu unhappily before you decided to switch to Windows? I went from Ubuntu to Debian, from there to Arch, played around with BSD's, back to Arch, then to Ubuntu. I had a lot of fun doing things like writing GTK+ apps and playing around with sysadmin stuff but certain user experience related things never really went away. >I know every system does font rendering a bit differently, and what people like to see really seems to have a big subjective factor it. Personally, I've always had a preference to how fonts are rendered on, for example, Ubuntu compared to Windows 10, especially with 2x scaling on high-DPI displays, but I acknowledge everyone's different. At >200 dpi I find that even VGA fonts look good. The difference is clear when you compare MBA 2017 to MBA 2018 font rendering, a HiDPI display fixes everything. I could see Windows font rendering degrade on hiDPI due to Cleartype forcing subpixel rendering but I don't possess such display devices. >Not disagreeing with you on this point. However, when it comes to "tinkering", I find all the cloud-connected nonsense and "extras" that Windows comes with turned on and thrown in your face by default after an install a much bigger annoyance, and I often have to go digging through all kinds of settings windows to get a good deal of that turned off, and even then it's not always possible (see telemetry, for example). A new Windows 10 install is a lot more effort in "tinkering" with all the settings into some sane configuration than any Linux distro where you're not compiling your own kernel and/or packages (and maybe even then). I used the Windows 10 LTSC iso from Windows' own website and it has no adware or extra apps installed, even Microsoft Store is disabled. Nowadays Windows Defender seems to carry it's weight. I guess instead of "I am tired of tinkering" I should have specified it as "I am tired of tinkering on things I don't find fun to tinker with" like DPI and drivers on Linux. I'd rather tinker with Haskell or my job without the OS getting in my way. MacOS seems to be a great compromise between the two. HiDPI macs look great and I can tinker on choice.

jbirer 6y ago

>All right, then I really need to ask: it took you 13 years of using Ubuntu unhappily before you decided to switch to Windows? I went from Ubuntu to Debian, from there to Arch, played around with BSD's, back to Arch, then to Ubuntu. I had a lot of fun doing things like writing GTK+ apps and playing around with sysadmin stuff but certain user experience related things never really went away. >I know every system does font rendering a bit differently, and what people like to see really seems to have a big subjective factor it. Personally, I've always had a preference to how fonts are rendered on, for example, Ubuntu compared to Windows 10, especially with 2x scaling on high-DPI displays, but I acknowledge everyone's different. At >200 dpi I find that even VGA fonts look good. The difference is clear when you compare MBA 2017 to MBA 2018 font rendering, a HiDPI display fixes everything. I could see Windows font rendering degrade on hiDPI due to Cleartype forcing subpixel rendering but I don't possess such display devices. >Not disagreeing with you on this point. However, when it comes to "tinkering", I find all the cloud-connected nonsense and "extras" that Windows comes with turned on and thrown in your face by default after an install a much bigger annoyance, and I often have to go digging through all kinds of settings windows to get a good deal of that turned off, and even then it's not always possible (see telemetry, for example). A new Windows 10 install is a lot more effort in "tinkering" with all the settings into some sane configuration than any Linux distro where you're not compiling your own kernel and/or packages (and maybe even then). I used the Windows 10 LTSC iso from Windows' own website and it has no adware or extra apps installed, even Microsoft Store is disabled. Nowadays Windows Defender seems to carry it's weight. I guess instead of "I am tired of tinkering" I should have specified it as "I am tired of tinkering on things I don't find fun to tinker with" like DPI and drivers on Linux. I'd rather tinker with Haskell or my job without the OS getting in my way. MacOS seems to be a great compromise between the two. HiDPI macs look great and I can tinker on choice.