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The goal is to achieve best outcome that have the less harm. Lockdown cause harm that is more than the covid itself. It is because the human life is important t

by matz1 6y ago

The goal is to achieve best outcome that have the less harm. Lockdown cause harm that is more than the covid itself. It is because the human life is important that lockdown shouldn't be taken. The lockdown cause harm is based on science and data. The data shows that the disease is not that bad compared to lockdown. If you want lock yourself up then I won't prevent you. Majority of population will oppose to lockdown if they presented with actual data, not fear mongering.

tsimionescu 6y ago
The only data that shows lockdowns being worse than the disease is from a clearly biased source. The data from non-biased sources is diametrically opposed: the disease is, to the best of our knowledge, much worse than the effects of the lockdown. You have to look at data from the real experts: WHO, NHS, NIH etc (NOT right-wing or left-wing think-tanks, actual public health orgs). With the unprecedented lockdowns and other mobilization measures, this disease has killed more people worldwide than the flu (~2x as many), malaria (~3x as many), AIDS (~2x as many), and may surpass deaths from TB by the end of the year, with an IFR hovering around 1%. In regions that didn't observe lockdowns (e.g. Italy in the early days, Iran in the early days) the death toll rose to around 5% of the confirmed infected population, because hospitals were completely overwhelmed and simply couldn't treat patients anymore. Even if a good portion of these deaths are not directly caused by the disease, it is still much worse than any other viral disease currently active in the world, and much worse than most infectious diseases, with few exceptions.
- matz1 6y ago
  Yes its bias becuase it actually trying to measure the harm on lockdown and comparing the harm. It bias towards trying to achieve the better outcome. Not all experts even try to measure the lockdown harm. A good portion of the covid death number being reported is not caused by covid itself so you see the inflated number. The death toll maybe 'high' but it worse compared to the harm of lockdown.

by matz1 6y ago

tsimionescu 6y ago

The only data that shows lockdowns being worse than the disease is from a clearly biased source. The data from non-biased sources is diametrically opposed: the disease is, to the best of our knowledge, much worse than the effects of the lockdown. You have to look at data from the real experts: WHO, NHS, NIH etc (NOT right-wing or left-wing think-tanks, actual public health orgs). With the unprecedented lockdowns and other mobilization measures, this disease has killed more people worldwide than the flu (~2x as many), malaria (~3x as many), AIDS (~2x as many), and may surpass deaths from TB by the end of the year, with an IFR hovering around 1%. In regions that didn't observe lockdowns (e.g. Italy in the early days, Iran in the early days) the death toll rose to around 5% of the confirmed infected population, because hospitals were completely overwhelmed and simply couldn't treat patients anymore. Even if a good portion of these deaths are not directly caused by the disease, it is still much worse than any other viral disease currently active in the world, and much worse than most infectious diseases, with few exceptions.

matz1 6y ago
Yes its bias becuase it actually trying to measure the harm on lockdown and comparing the harm. It bias towards trying to achieve the better outcome. Not all experts even try to measure the lockdown harm. A good portion of the covid death number being reported is not caused by covid itself so you see the inflated number. The death toll maybe 'high' but it worse compared to the harm of lockdown.