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“No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.”

by zizee 6y ago

lmm 6y ago
This is the exact opposite of that. HN is hyped for Starlink because it's cool tech, not because it's a great user experience.
- modeless 6y ago
  That's wrong. In this case, as with the iPod, the tech enables a dramatically better user experience. Compared to existing satellite ISPs you get dramatically better latency and dramatically faster/easier setup (no professional installation required, plug and play in 5 minutes). It's also likely to be far cheaper if you actually transfer a decent amount of data, and early tests seem to show better reliability in poor weather as well. It's even better than DSL and some wireless ISPs or 4G hotspots with marginal connections, which are probably the main competition for Starlink.
  - lmm 6y ago
    > In this case, as with the iPod, the tech enables a dramatically better user experience. The whole reason CowboyNeal was attacking the iPod was that technically it was a step backwards. It couldn't do anything that a Nomad couldn't. The part that it did well (and that he missed the importance of) was the usability and polish. > Compared to existing satellite ISPs you get dramatically better latency and dramatically faster/easier setup (no professional installation required, plug and play in 5 minutes). It's also likely to be far cheaper if you actually transfer a decent amount of data, and early tests seem to show better reliability in poor weather as well. All true, but can you see HN caring about any of that if SpaceX wasn't involved? The HN userbase is overwhelmingly city folk; I suspect only a tiny proportion of us have ever used satellite internet before.
    - modeless 6y ago
      Yes, I can see HN getting excited about a dramatically better satellite internet option regardless of who it came from. OneWeb, Amazon, etc could have had this attention if they had gotten here first.
- gdubs 6y ago
  Um, no — people are hyped because it will provide decent low-latency connectivity to areas that can’t even get a DSL line or more than a couple of bars of LTE.

“No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.”

by zizee 6y ago

“No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.”

lmm 6y ago

This is the exact opposite of that. HN is hyped for Starlink because it's cool tech, not because it's a great user experience.

modeless 6y ago
That's wrong. In this case, as with the iPod, the tech enables a dramatically better user experience. Compared to existing satellite ISPs you get dramatically better latency and dramatically faster/easier setup (no professional installation required, plug and play in 5 minutes). It's also likely to be far cheaper if you actually transfer a decent amount of data, and early tests seem to show better reliability in poor weather as well. It's even better than DSL and some wireless ISPs or 4G hotspots with marginal connections, which are probably the main competition for Starlink.
- lmm 6y ago
  > In this case, as with the iPod, the tech enables a dramatically better user experience. The whole reason CowboyNeal was attacking the iPod was that technically it was a step backwards. It couldn't do anything that a Nomad couldn't. The part that it did well (and that he missed the importance of) was the usability and polish. > Compared to existing satellite ISPs you get dramatically better latency and dramatically faster/easier setup (no professional installation required, plug and play in 5 minutes). It's also likely to be far cheaper if you actually transfer a decent amount of data, and early tests seem to show better reliability in poor weather as well. All true, but can you see HN caring about any of that if SpaceX wasn't involved? The HN userbase is overwhelmingly city folk; I suspect only a tiny proportion of us have ever used satellite internet before.
  - modeless 6y ago
    Yes, I can see HN getting excited about a dramatically better satellite internet option regardless of who it came from. OneWeb, Amazon, etc could have had this attention if they had gotten here first.
gdubs 6y ago
Um, no — people are hyped because it will provide decent low-latency connectivity to areas that can’t even get a DSL line or more than a couple of bars of LTE.