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The same racist swill has been slung at nearly every minority and immigrant group. People of Asian descent were accused of being dirty, so were black people, s
by pmoriarty 6y ago
The same racist swill has been slung at nearly every minority and immigrant group.
People of Asian descent were accused of being dirty, so were black people, so were Irish and Italian immigrants, Mexicans, Indians, and of course Native Americans.
Their poverty was thrown in their face, as so was their lack of education (which was often mandated by law or other forms of discrimination).
Now in the US Irish and Italian communities have grown greatly in stature, and the slurs that were used against them are not so acceptable any more, are they?
Asians are now accused, if anything, of being far too educated and unfairly advantaged, though you still hear slurs thrown at them when talk turns to Chinatown or other Asian slums (as if any slum inhabitant, no matter what race or ethnicity, is going to afford to strut around in a freshly pressed three-piece suit).
Muslims and people from the Middle East are now getting their turn at being hated and accused of being dirty and lazy in many "civilized" countries to which they come for a better life.
Of course, one of the most well known and oppressed of groups who faced the very same accusations were Jews.
They also were called dirty, lazy, thieving, etc.. and at the same time rich, thieving, and miserly.
This kind of racist, bigoted, xenophobic libel leads straight to lynchings, pogroms, and gas chambers.
- NoImmatureAdHom 6y ago> This kind of racist, bigoted, xenophobic libel leads straight to lynchings, pogroms, and gas chambers. Ehh...I think this is hyperbolic. It doesn't usually do that, it mostly just kind of simmers at the edges of society. And it's not "every minority and immigrant group", it's the poor ones.
- pmoriarty 6y ago"it's not "every minority and immigrant group", it's the poor ones." Except Jews in Europe in the first half of the 20th Century (and in other places and times) were targeted for being poor and being rich. When they were wealthy they were envied and accused of getting their money through immoral means, like usury and stealing it from their poorer neighbors. When they were poor they were accused of being dirty, and poor because they were lazy. And when they were neither rich nor poor, well then they were hated for just being Jews. Even the ones who had fully assimilated weren't safe, because the racial laws meant that who your ancestors were mattered more than who you were.
- visarga 6y ago> The same racist swill has been slung at nearly every minority and immigrant group. Here comes the generalisation. As many have said, you can only speak with authority if you had first hand experience. I think Bulgarians and other European nations have a much more nuanced and grounded view on the Roma, based on direct experience, not reading news online. They know that not all Roma are the same, they all know exceptions, they realise how hard it is for them to break out of this situation, but at the same time how much of it is self inflicted.
- nickpp 6y agoDo you know anything about Romas and their culture, do you know any Roma person? Because your comment talks about Asians, Irish, Italians, Mexicans, Indians and others but not about Gypsys at all. "Lynchings, pogroms, and gas chambers" - are you serious?! What world do you live in? And please check yourself with that racial hate on gypsy culture. Their culture is dark, mysterious, romantic, nomadic, wonderful and beautiful in its own way. It has different values from your culture (and mine) and leads to different outcomes but you shouldn't hate it. Get yourself involved with a community or organization working with Gypsy people and maybe you'll start to understand them better instead of summarily judge them and those who know them.
- pmoriarty 6y ago"please check yourself with that racial hate on gypsy culture" Point out one single thing. One thing I said that in any way, even the slightest, showed any kind of hate, racial or otherwise towards gypsy culture. You can't. Because there isn't anything. And if what I said in the post you replied to isn't enough, have a look at the rest of my comments in this thread. I'm against racism, not for it. "Lynchings, pogroms, and gas chambers" - are you serious?! What world do you live in?" Yes, I'm serious. Wake up to the 20th fucking century. That is the real world, and we're not so very far away from it. Might be going back to it some time soon, given the way right wing nationalism, xenophobia, and racism has been gaining ground all over the world. Gypsies, by the way, were themselves victims in the Holocaust. If you are as much a fan of gypsies and gypsy culture as you appear to be, that should be of concern to you, as they, like every other minority and persecuted group are under threat from racism and xenophobia.
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