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Have you ever stopped and thought about why you feel in such way towards these experiments? Why do you see sentience as the line not to cross and even go as far
by belval 6y ago
Have you ever stopped and thought about why you feel in such way towards these experiments? Why do you see sentience as the line not to cross and even go as far as to call it a "dark path"?
You use a lot of wording that are very religious sounding such as "soul", "excommunicated", "dark path", but have you considered that you cannot really excommunicate a scientist, that the mere concept of a soul might be wrong?
To be clear it makes me feel weird too, but we have to be able to discuss this instead of using inefficient red tape.
- whytaka 6y agoIf there's any science of morality to be done, the most basic quantum of moral value is suffering. Sentient creatures have greater capacity for suffering, being aware of their pain and the injustice of their existence. If we are to bring it into existence, we are responsible for its suffering.
- fiblye 6y agoAnd if a presumably sentient creature is aborted before it attains sentience, has it suffered?
- belval 6y agoNot the commenter you are responding to, but I would assume if it has not attained sentience then it should not be considered sentient and as such is not a sentient creature. It has to be, otherwise the abortion debate would be very different. Aborting a somewhat conscious fetus would be much closer to murder.
- alisonkisk 6y agoIf you latch on to me and suck my blood, is it murder for me to remove you from my body just because you can't live without parasitically feeding off of me?
- fiblye 6y agoShould the biological process through which most mammals carry on their future existence be considered an act of parasitism? I think being a parasite usually requires two conditions be met: 1 is that they're separate species, and 2 is that it's bad for the creature. Children eventually grow up and generally take care of the "host" that they sucked blood from, and their existence is generally beneficial for the species, so it's hard to define as a parasite.
- arcticbull 6y agoRe: separate species, I don't believe that's actually a requirement to meet the conditions of parasitism per Oxford Dictionary. A parasite is defined as "an organism which lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense." -- Without getting into the emotional connotations of calling a child a parasite, it certainly does meet the Oxford Dictionary definition. Re: bad for the creature, hyenas give birth through their clitoris. I'd suggest that's not great. Children cost an average of $233,000 to raise. That's certainly not great. That doesn't take into account career cost and opportunity cost of lost income. Sub-optimal too. I'd describe children as mandatory lol.
- tracer4201 6y agoTo me this is orthogonal to religion. What concerns me is the idea of a sentient, living thing being experimented on — if it has consciousness and intelligence, is it really different from experimenting on a human?