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Poor countries have always been a testing ground for vaccine, since their lives are considered to be less worth than ours and their countries hardly have any re

by bsd44 6y ago

Poor countries have always been a testing ground for vaccine, since their lives are considered to be less worth than ours and their countries hardly have any regulations in place, let alone institutions to enforce those regulations. If there are negative side effects or even death, nobody has the means to go after BigPharma. Sad to see reservation towards experimental vaccine being labelled as "anti-vaxx" much like we've seen various points of view being discredited by pushing "racist" and "fake news" narrative.

macspoofing 6y ago
>Poor countries have always been a testing ground for vaccine, since their lives are considered to be less worth than ours and their countries hardly have any regulations in place, let alone institutions to enforce those regulations. Is this what's actually true (and you have evidence of). Or is this just your cynicism informing your personal belief?
- jsrjenkins 6y ago
  Promising to eradicate Polio with $1.2 billion, Gates took control of India ‘s National Advisory Board (NAB) and mandated 50 polio vaccines (up from 5) to every child before age 5. Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating vaccine-strain polio epidemic that paralyzed 496,000 children between 2000 and 2017. In 2017, the Indian Government dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and evicted Gates and his cronies from the NAB. Polio paralysis rates dropped precipitously. In 2017, the World Health Organization reluctantly admitted that the global polio explosion is predominantly vaccine strain, meaning it is coming from Gates’ Vaccine Program. The most frightening epidemics in Congo, the Philippines, and Afghanistan are all linked to Gates’ vaccines. By 2018, ¾ of global polio cases were from Gates’ vaccines. In 2014, the Gates Foundation funded tests of experimental HPV vaccines, developed by GSK and Merck, on 23,000 young girls in remote Indian provinces. Approximately 1,200 suffered severe side effects, including autoimmune and fertility disorders. Seven died. Indian government investigations charged that Gates funded researchers committed pervasive ethical violations: pressuring vulnerable village girls into the trial, bullying parents, forging consent forms, and refusing medical care to the injured girls. The case is now in the country’s Supreme Court. In 2010, the Gates Foundation funded a trial of a GSK’s experimental malaria vaccine, killing 151 African infants and causing serious adverse effects including paralysis, seizure, and febrile convulsions to 1,048 of the 5,049 children. During Gates 2002 MenAfriVac Campaign in Sub-Saharan Africa, Gates operatives forcibly vaccinated thousands of African children against meningitis. Between 50-500 children developed paralysis. South African newspapers complained, “We are guinea pigs for drug makers” [1] [1] from an article by Robert F. Kennedy. Looking for source
  - Drunk_Engineer 6y ago
    LOL using Robert Kennedy as a source. You fucking anti-vaxxers. In fact, there were only 17 cases of vaccine-derived poliovirus cases between 2000 and 2017. Source: https://thelogicalindian.com/fact-check/bill-gates-polio-vaccine-covid-19-gates-foundation-21270 https://thelogicalindian.com/fact-check/bill-gates-polio-vac...
  - chess_buster 6y ago
    No, thank you.
chuckSu 6y ago
Cool. Can you back up your statements with some kind of verified proof?
JumpCrisscross 6y ago
> Poor countries have always been a testing ground for vaccine...experimental vaccine These vaccines were first deployed in the United States in the 1950s (Salk) and 1980s (IPV) [1]. The oral vaccine, which is cheaper to administer than injected vaccines and has been around since 1988, is used when governments won’t pay for injections. It causes side effects once every 2.4 million doses [2]. The two countries with wild polio are Pakistan and Afghanistan. The people rejecting the vaccine are poor, illiterate, uneducated and distrustful towards their society’s failed institutions. The rich world administered itself these vaccines long ago. It is the poor and uneducated hurting themselves with rejection. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_eradication#Vaccination https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_eradication#Vaccinatio...

by bsd44 6y ago

macspoofing 6y ago

>Poor countries have always been a testing ground for vaccine, since their lives are considered to be less worth than ours and their countries hardly have any regulations in place, let alone institutions to enforce those regulations. Is this what's actually true (and you have evidence of). Or is this just your cynicism informing your personal belief?

jsrjenkins 6y ago
Promising to eradicate Polio with $1.2 billion, Gates took control of India ‘s National Advisory Board (NAB) and mandated 50 polio vaccines (up from 5) to every child before age 5. Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating vaccine-strain polio epidemic that paralyzed 496,000 children between 2000 and 2017. In 2017, the Indian Government dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and evicted Gates and his cronies from the NAB. Polio paralysis rates dropped precipitously. In 2017, the World Health Organization reluctantly admitted that the global polio explosion is predominantly vaccine strain, meaning it is coming from Gates’ Vaccine Program. The most frightening epidemics in Congo, the Philippines, and Afghanistan are all linked to Gates’ vaccines. By 2018, ¾ of global polio cases were from Gates’ vaccines. In 2014, the Gates Foundation funded tests of experimental HPV vaccines, developed by GSK and Merck, on 23,000 young girls in remote Indian provinces. Approximately 1,200 suffered severe side effects, including autoimmune and fertility disorders. Seven died. Indian government investigations charged that Gates funded researchers committed pervasive ethical violations: pressuring vulnerable village girls into the trial, bullying parents, forging consent forms, and refusing medical care to the injured girls. The case is now in the country’s Supreme Court. In 2010, the Gates Foundation funded a trial of a GSK’s experimental malaria vaccine, killing 151 African infants and causing serious adverse effects including paralysis, seizure, and febrile convulsions to 1,048 of the 5,049 children. During Gates 2002 MenAfriVac Campaign in Sub-Saharan Africa, Gates operatives forcibly vaccinated thousands of African children against meningitis. Between 50-500 children developed paralysis. South African newspapers complained, “We are guinea pigs for drug makers” [1] [1] from an article by Robert F. Kennedy. Looking for source
- Drunk_Engineer 6y ago
  LOL using Robert Kennedy as a source. You fucking anti-vaxxers. In fact, there were only 17 cases of vaccine-derived poliovirus cases between 2000 and 2017. Source: https://thelogicalindian.com/fact-check/bill-gates-polio-vaccine-covid-19-gates-foundation-21270 https://thelogicalindian.com/fact-check/bill-gates-polio-vac...
- chess_buster 6y ago
  No, thank you.

chuckSu 6y ago

Cool. Can you back up your statements with some kind of verified proof?

JumpCrisscross 6y ago

> Poor countries have always been a testing ground for vaccine...experimental vaccine These vaccines were first deployed in the United States in the 1950s (Salk) and 1980s (IPV) [1]. The oral vaccine, which is cheaper to administer than injected vaccines and has been around since 1988, is used when governments won’t pay for injections. It causes side effects once every 2.4 million doses [2]. The two countries with wild polio are Pakistan and Afghanistan. The people rejecting the vaccine are poor, illiterate, uneducated and distrustful towards their society’s failed institutions. The rich world administered itself these vaccines long ago. It is the poor and uneducated hurting themselves with rejection. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_eradication#Vaccination https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_eradication#Vaccinatio...