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Disposable items should be one of our most wanted enemies. What about reusable cups like mugs? You should then be expected to BYOC everywhere. Yes that would me

Disposable items should be one of our most wanted enemies. What about reusable cups like mugs? You should then be expected to BYOC everywhere. Yes that would mean a lot of education and changes of mentallities and that's not going to happen anytime soon unless we pass laws for that kind of thing. And we totally should, IMHO. (edit: removed the part in which I stated that burning bagasse is clean energy as I want the discussion to be focused on my first point)

hannob 6y ago
Observation from Germany: A couple of years ago I wouldn't bring my own cup, because I was uncomfortable with having conversations about it. This has changed, because it's now prevalent enough that I'd consider it "not unusual" to have my own cup. Also plenty of places now offer small discounts. I'm not doing it for the discounts, but that of course adds to the normalization. (Also: Covid makes things more complicated and I've been wary of using my reusable cup once again, though I also massively reduced my coffee-not-at-home-consumption, and after all that'll be over at some point.)
- nicoburns 6y ago
  I don't think reusable cups are an isuse with covid. After all it's your cup. And the baristas will have to touch disposable one too. So long as you wash it I guess.
  - dmurray 6y ago
    Reusable cups allow the customer to contaminate the barista, as well as the other way around, so it's an extra avenue for infection - and a more dangerous one, since he's going to be serving coffee to hundreds more customers and does not get disinfected between each customer. Coffee shops here in Ireland stopped accepting reusable cups during 2020.
sokoloff 6y ago
Where does this end? I could also bring my own silverware, my own plate and bowl, my own cloth napkin. “Hey, we’re going to get some soup and go for walk; wanna come?” “Sorry, I can’t, I thought I was going to have a salad and so I only brought my salad plates and utensils with me.” I think it’s fairly unreasonable to expect people to lug around everything they might need for the day every day.
- smileysteve 6y ago
  The spork has existed for some time. Soldiers and campers have had mess kits where they cooked and ate their food from a compact portable system for at least 100 years. If anything, modern be silicone has increased the portability and utility of mess kits dramatically in the last 2 decades
tomjen3 6y ago
You use 'should' a lot. That is a moral judgement, not an argument.

hannob 6y ago

Observation from Germany: A couple of years ago I wouldn't bring my own cup, because I was uncomfortable with having conversations about it. This has changed, because it's now prevalent enough that I'd consider it "not unusual" to have my own cup. Also plenty of places now offer small discounts. I'm not doing it for the discounts, but that of course adds to the normalization. (Also: Covid makes things more complicated and I've been wary of using my reusable cup once again, though I also massively reduced my coffee-not-at-home-consumption, and after all that'll be over at some point.)

nicoburns 6y ago
I don't think reusable cups are an isuse with covid. After all it's your cup. And the baristas will have to touch disposable one too. So long as you wash it I guess.
- dmurray 6y ago
  Reusable cups allow the customer to contaminate the barista, as well as the other way around, so it's an extra avenue for infection - and a more dangerous one, since he's going to be serving coffee to hundreds more customers and does not get disinfected between each customer. Coffee shops here in Ireland stopped accepting reusable cups during 2020.

sokoloff 6y ago

Where does this end? I could also bring my own silverware, my own plate and bowl, my own cloth napkin. “Hey, we’re going to get some soup and go for walk; wanna come?” “Sorry, I can’t, I thought I was going to have a salad and so I only brought my salad plates and utensils with me.” I think it’s fairly unreasonable to expect people to lug around everything they might need for the day every day.

smileysteve 6y ago
The spork has existed for some time. Soldiers and campers have had mess kits where they cooked and ate their food from a compact portable system for at least 100 years. If anything, modern be silicone has increased the portability and utility of mess kits dramatically in the last 2 decades

tomjen3 6y ago

You use 'should' a lot. That is a moral judgement, not an argument.