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The difference is stating that the state of Israel (which does not represent all Jews) is trying to influence the government. Evangelical Christians are a subse
by tehjoker 6y ago
The difference is stating that the state of Israel (which does not represent all Jews) is trying to influence the government. Evangelical Christians are a subset of Christians that are widely known to be a key voting block for the republican party.
I don't think it's anti-semetic to criticize Israel. The thing NOT to do is imply that Israel (or the Jews) operate the US like a puppet state. The idea that jews secretly control the peoples of the world is a trope from nazi propaganda and so it is important to carefully state criticisms so as to not imply that.
If the US really were a puppet state, it would be fair to say, but in reality it is rather the reverse. It can be difficult to see that because we do not talk about US imperialism and the neo-colonial goals of the US state security apparatus. As I stated in another comment, Israel lobbies the US for favors and often they are granted because our governments wish to maintain a security relationship. It can be sometimes difficult to thread that needle, but it is possible to do in good faith. The Israel lobby does attack people who make criticisms in good faith though... which is permitted because if people saw Israel as an apartheid state, the US would be pressured to terminate our security relationship.
In summary, this is a complex issue. To be honest, Israel's apartheid behavior and militarism is giving fuel to hate by muddying the waters so much. If they would quit that shit, it would make life a lot easier for every honest person trying to talk about these issues.
- colordrops 6y ago> operate the US like a puppet state. The idea that jews secretly control the peoples of the world is a trope from nazi propaganda Woah now this is much further than anyone in this thread has claimed or stated. Fear of social ostracization is not reason enough to avoid discussing the truth. Just pointing out the truth that jews form a "key voting block" and lobbyist group is not an endorsement of any more encompassing and ungrounded theory or judgment against them. It is bigoted and prejudicial to treat jews differently from christians and muslims, period point blank.
- boomboomsubban 6y ago>Woah now this is much further than anyone in this thread has claimed or stated. The original post said the US congress was "subservient to Israeli political and security needs." Or "operates the US like a puppet state."