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The myth that the EU doesn’t pay for their security is one of those myths that Trump was so desperate to push, because NATO is a threat to his financier Putin,
by sonotathrowaway 6y ago
The myth that the EU doesn’t pay for their security is one of those myths that Trump was so desperate to push, because NATO is a threat to his financier Putin, therefore it was a threat to him. He was very adamant about the need to weaken it to please Putin, but in reality they do pay quite a bit.
- ku-man 6y agoLet me point to the elephant in the room: Europe wants NATO because the last thing they need/want is a re-armed and independent Germany.
- jariel 6y agoThe EU definitely does not pay for their won security, just because Trump is 'bad' doesn't mean he's wrong. The EU is a very, very rich place, they have serious military concerns right on their borders, but are both unwiling to make the investment necessary - and - unwilling to 'get along' in a manner such as they can act responsibly and consistently against the threat. The very fact the US needs to be there - and - underpins/leads NATO is evidence that Europe is not 'doing their own work'. If Europe was properly paying for their own security, then: 1) There would be 0 question as to the need for the US in Europe. It would be like the need for massive US presence in Canada - nobody thinks that, it's obviously unecessary. 2) There would be 0 concern over border integrity, especially in Baltic states. Again, it would be like concern over 'New Zealand' being invaded - there's no concern there. That's what 'good security' looks like - it makes one position look secure to the point of any real aggression being unfathomable or crazy. The Europe should pay more for it's security so we can spend the next ~100 years or so cooling down - eventually the Russians won't want to invade their neighbours.