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Please take these racist conspiracy theories elsewhere.
by jariel 6y ago
Please take these racist conspiracy theories elsewhere.
- haram_masala 6y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Israel_Lobby_and_U.S._Foreign_Policy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Israel_Lobby_and_U.S._Fore...
- jariel 6y agoWow, you mean foreign interests lobby the US Government, I'm so surprised, I was unaware of that! /friendly sarcasm/ Saying that 'Congress is Subservient to a Foreign Power' is completely different than saying 'A Foreign Power has influence in Congress'. The US gives billions to Egypt and Saudi Arabia in aid, military equipment, and literally by contract guarantees the Sovereignty and power of the House of Saud - so conspiratorial statements that make this about 'one side' or that anyone 'controls congress' are damaging and false.
- haram_masala 6y ago"Saying that 'Congress is Subservient to a Foreign Power' is completely different than saying 'A Foreign Power has influence in Congress'." I'm well aware of that.
- bsder 6y agoAcknowledging that the Evangelicals supporting Israel is because they see the Middle East and Israel, in particular, as a gateway/prerequisite to the end times is hardly conspiracy--it's quite well documented.
- Talanes 6y agoYes, but it's more likely a narrative that gained traction because supporting Israel happened to also align with US interests, rather than the cause of that support.
- ardit33 6y agohmmm... neither american nor arab here, but you can't deny that usa spends a lot, I mean billions, on aid to Israel, some less to Egypt. That's not a conspiracy but a fact. The cold war is over. We are much less depended on arab oil right now. What's the excuse now?
- kevin_thibedeau 6y agoMost of that aid has to be spent on US weaponry so it's really a backdoor subsidy for the MIC. Something to keep the fires burning when we're between wars.
- jariel 6y ago"but you can't deny that usa spends a lot, I mean billions, on aid to Israel, " If someone want to point out that Congress is influenced by others, and to question that, it's fine. But indicating that 'Congress is Controlled by the Jews' is an anti-semetic trope. Also: "What's the excuse now?" The Israeli-Egyptian conflict was not part of 'the Cold War' nor was it about 'Oil' - it's about regional stability among two regional powers - and the Suez Canal. Keeping Israel and Egypt away from each other keeps others less likely to start a conflict with Israel - and also provides stability for an important economic throughway - the Suez Canal. Since the US has participated there's been peace. The investments have yielded great dividends. That said, it's still a powder keg: there are minor bust ups between Muslim Brotherhood and Israeli soldiers etc. at the border, every example has the opportunity to blow up into something much more. Thankfully, the US has a lot of influence in Egypt and can keep things under wraps. And though the US is less dependent on Oil from Saudi Arabia, it still is to some extent, moreover, keeping the oil flowing is good for the world economy, and much better in those terms than were Saudi Arabia to be taken by China or Russia etc. which is why that pact continues. It will be this way for a few generations yet.