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Is Ketamine advisable to inject into someone who has had deadly force used against them which could lead to stroke? Did they ask if he had any conditions befo

by Klinky 6y ago

Is Ketamine advisable to inject into someone who has had deadly force used against them which could lead to stroke? Did they ask if he had any conditions before grabbing him and instigating the struggle? Did they ignore his explanations while on the ground, and his breathing complaints? It certainly is applicable, the entire point is to find ways for people to survive interactions with the police, not excuse away deaths caused by police intervention. There are plenty of instances where 911 calls are outright lies or incomplete information is provided. It is up to the responding officers to take the reports with a grain of salt. Again, your focus seems to be to find ways to redirect blame away from the officers who directly contributed to Elijah's death. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_John_Crawford_III https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_John_Crawford_III https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Tamir_Rice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Tamir_Rice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Wichita_swatting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Wichita_swatting

giantg2 6y ago
What explanation did he give? Why would they ask if someone has a condition as soon as they approach someone (and did he have even one)? Most people won't answer that because it's none of their business. The breathing complaints are common and with the right training (which it sounds like they didn't have), you are supposed to know which ones are legitimate. I'm not making up excuses. As I've said in my previous comments, I believe the vascular constriction killed him, via a stroke or stroke-like event. What I am saying, is that you seem to be living in a fantasy land where you have some aversion to drugs being part of the force continuum and don't understand reasonable suspicion standards as well as the obligations and rights of citizens during an investigation.
- Klinky 6y ago
  He said he was an introvert and asked the officers to respect his boundaries. Do officers not know what an introvert is? Do they not know some people react poorly to bring touched? He also had asthma, which might be good to know before you decide to chokehold someone. There's tons of people in this world, who act differently to different stimulus, and mental healthcare in the US has historically been poor, so there are probably plenty of undiagnosed people walking around. Most people don't announce they're introverts during a police stop, this should have been a clue. It seems a lot of police have trouble spotting the "fakers". Literally they did a chokehold on him, how much training do you need to understand that causes harm? More excuses from you. You seem to live in a land where just because it's written on paper and police can legally kill people, that it makes it okay. Maybe policies need to change in light of so many of these tragedies, and the willy nilly use of Ketamine and chokeholds should actually be reconsidered. Hopefully this pilot program is a success, and we can avoid the amateur hour antics that lead to Elijah's death.
  - giantg2 6y ago
    You clearly haven't been reading my comments.

by Klinky 6y ago

giantg2 6y ago

What explanation did he give? Why would they ask if someone has a condition as soon as they approach someone (and did he have even one)? Most people won't answer that because it's none of their business. The breathing complaints are common and with the right training (which it sounds like they didn't have), you are supposed to know which ones are legitimate. I'm not making up excuses. As I've said in my previous comments, I believe the vascular constriction killed him, via a stroke or stroke-like event. What I am saying, is that you seem to be living in a fantasy land where you have some aversion to drugs being part of the force continuum and don't understand reasonable suspicion standards as well as the obligations and rights of citizens during an investigation.

Klinky 6y ago
He said he was an introvert and asked the officers to respect his boundaries. Do officers not know what an introvert is? Do they not know some people react poorly to bring touched? He also had asthma, which might be good to know before you decide to chokehold someone. There's tons of people in this world, who act differently to different stimulus, and mental healthcare in the US has historically been poor, so there are probably plenty of undiagnosed people walking around. Most people don't announce they're introverts during a police stop, this should have been a clue. It seems a lot of police have trouble spotting the "fakers". Literally they did a chokehold on him, how much training do you need to understand that causes harm? More excuses from you. You seem to live in a land where just because it's written on paper and police can legally kill people, that it makes it okay. Maybe policies need to change in light of so many of these tragedies, and the willy nilly use of Ketamine and chokeholds should actually be reconsidered. Hopefully this pilot program is a success, and we can avoid the amateur hour antics that lead to Elijah's death.
- giantg2 6y ago
  You clearly haven't been reading my comments.