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But how many times do you have to spam-press that button to heat a decent meal properly? I'd rather have a dial than having to press a single button 8 times for

• milankragujevic 6y ago
  I mean my microwave has an electronic dial to enter the time which increments by 5 seconds starting at 10 seconds, and a Start/Another 30s more button, so you can set it to any time very quickly. It's the cheapest model that doesn't have the physical mechanical controls.
• derefr 6y ago
  To reheat a "decent meal"†, you usually need to microwave the components of it separately, since they'll have very different thermal masses. And if you're doing that, each individual component isn't going to take very long. One minute for this (2 presses), two minutes for that (4 presses). The overhead of swapping meal components in/out swamps the button-presses. Plus, if there's any sauce in any components, you'll need to be stopping the timer every 2.5 minutes to stir it around, lest you get a sauce that starts boiling/burning in some parts while still being frozen/tepid in others. † As in, "something better than a TV dinner." One of the main reasons (other than cost) that TV dinners generally have such strange/unpleasant/non-complementary side-dishes in them, is the fact that the components of the meal are chosen to all have matching reheat times. (And even then, many still have instructions requiring you take things out half-way to poke holes in plastic etc., to switch some meal-components from being both irradiated themselves while also being steamed by irradiated water, to only being directly irradiated.)
  • crazygringo 6y ago
    > such strange/unpleasant/non-complementary side-dishes I'm curious, what's an example? All the frozen dinners at my supermarket are a protein (beef, chicken, turkey) with a starch (noodles, mashed potatoes) and maybe frozen veggies. Often with sauce/gravy. All totally normal. I'm struggling to imagine a strange/unpleasant side dish.
    • mikestew 6y ago
      Really, you find that peas-and-carrots combo not unpleasant? Maybe a normally fine veggie combination, but when frozen and then tossed in a microwave...
      • chrisseaton 6y ago
        I think peas and carrots are a pretty common vegetable combination even when fresh. And of all vegetables these freeze and microwave pretty well!
      • crazygringo 6y ago
        I mean, it's perfectly pleasant. Delicious, even. Also, freezing and then microwaving is literally indistinguishable from steaming fresh over hot water in a pot. The whole point of freezing is that no flavor or nutrients are lost, only texture because cell walls burst -- but then you lose the crunchy texture because cell walls burst equivalently when steaming anyways, which is why freezing+microwaving works so well. Nothing is lost at all.
        • OJFord 6y ago
          Have you.. actually tried steaming something?
          • crazygringo 6y ago
            I've cooked various cuisines at home for decades, including a stint in a professional kitchen. I'm not suggesting you microwave your shumai dumplings or your egg custard. But for your standard fibrous veggies like peas, carrots, broccoli, cauliflower, lima beans, etc.? Yes, frozen plus microwaved vs. steamed yields identical results, provided you stir in the microwave every minute to avoid building up hot spots. It's just physics.
            • OJFord 6y ago
              Ok you've added 'fibrous' now, and to be honest of that list I've only steamed peas, but quickly realised I prefer boiling them if nothing else than because it's easier. I tried kale in the microwave once (with a bit of water and covered in cling film (seran(?) wrap)) and it was awful. To me at least 'stir in the microwave every minute to avoid building up hot spots' just isn't easier, I only use mine for defrosting/reheating things (I live alone so there's always multiple portions left over).
• paxswill 6y ago
  My favorites are the ones where the first couple number buttons (say, 1-6ish) are shortcuts for the corresponding minutes. If I need a non-30s divisible time, or something longer it's more presses ("Time Cook" and then the entire time, then "Start") but for 95% (at least) of what I use it for it's faster.
• coderjames 6y ago
  I think it depends on one's definition of "decent meal" :-). I can put a frozen burrito into my microwave, press "1 minute," press "+30 seconds," and have a perfectly acceptable breakfast in two presses.
• omgwtfbyobbq 6y ago
  If it's more than 60s or 90s, depending on whether the microwave starts when you hit +30s, you just use the actual time, which is usually 4-5 button presses including hitting start. For many things, I agree that dials are the easiest. The only downsides are needing to be careful if you want exact times and not having adjustable power levels. A microwave with a dial for power would be awesome though.
  • OJFord 6y ago
    Exact times are just fooling yourself. I would say most UK microwaves have a time knob and up/down buttons for power.
    • omgwtfbyobbq 6y ago
      They're helpful for certain things, like cold bread (15s is great, 20+s is too much).
      • OJFord 6y ago
        What is cold bread, and what's the output, after these 15s? Keeping bread in the fridge and want it very quickly room temperature for a rush sandwich? Does it really need to be in the fridge?
        • omgwtfbyobbq 6y ago
          Yes and yes. It doesn't need to be in the fridge, but certain kinds go moldy much slower there.
• to11mtm 6y ago
  The UX for mine almost gets it right... If I hit 1,2, or 3, it will cook for that many minutes with some (very minor) level of 'sensing'; If you hit 3 when you meant 1 you're still gonna get a dry brick still, but I don't find myself having to 'fine tune' my cook time to the second. However, I never remember the right order of events to specify a power level, because this thing apparently lets you pre-program multiple cooking phases (e.x. 6 mins at 50%, then 3 mins at 30%). And honestly, it would probably be a great feature if they didn't skimp out on the screen or buttons. I'm imagining something where either the buttons light up (for example, to clarify whether I'm setting Power level, or Time) or a screen that doesn't feel like it came out of a 1980s LED Calculator warehouse.
  • wincy 6y ago
    I recently bought the Alexa enabled Amazon microwave. I just say “Alexa, microwave at power level 5 for five minutes”, and it starts right up. Of course the first time I tried saying “Alexa, microwave at 50% power for five minutes” but Alexa helpfully said “you have to select a power level between 1 and 10”, so the UX was easy to grok and I haven’t messed it up after the first try.
• majikandy 6y ago
  Over time the digital dials go a bit rubbish and sometimes jump up and sometimes down and all over the place as you try to dial it up. I have to revert to using beep beep beep on mine to build up the 30seconds.
• crazygringo 6y ago
  The only things I heat for more than a minute require stirring or repositioning every 60 seconds anyways, unless I want a burnt bottom while the top is still ice.
• soneca 6y ago
  Mine has the 30s button, but also a numeral pad that if I want 5 minutes of heating I just hit the “6” button once and it starts already with 6 minutes. Pretty good UX
  • dwighttk 6y ago
    >if I want 5 minutes of heating I just hit the “6” button once and it starts already with 6 minutes. Pretty good UX and then stop it with a minute left?
    • soneca 6y ago
      Yep! Just in case I realize it needs to go back for a bit extra heating.
• OJFord 6y ago
  Mine has a knob rather than numeric pad, but also that 'start with default 30s' button. So I hit 'start' then spin the knob, no multiple press or beep required.