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Users everywhere have had to put up with U.S law for a long time. The laws and norms of the USA are more or less "fully baked in". Try posting a nipple or copy
by zxcmx 6y ago
Users everywhere have had to put up with U.S law for a long time. The laws and norms of the USA are more or less "fully baked in".
Try posting a nipple or copyrighted track, for example.
If Facebook had come from a different place, all songs and body bits might be Ok but perhaps discussion of government would be banned. I can't tell if that would actually be a better facebook than the one we got.
- beepboop77 6y agoI think you don't give American companies enough credit when it comes to appealing to various countries laws and opinions. It is disingenuous to say Europe or the rest of the world does not care about copyright when they have historically and increasingly laws that are as strict if not stricter than the US' when it comes to preventing copyright infringement. [1][2] Nipples do reflect American sensibilities although it is understandable that many companies do not want to go down that road as it could lead to becoming distributors of porn. I think you will find that many countries outside of Europe agree or don't think that these rules go far enough. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_on_Copyright_in_the_Digital_Single_Market#Draft_Article_13_(Directive_Article_17) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_on_Copyright_in_the_... [2] https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/06/33f524714d35-japan-enacts-copyright-control-law-to-ban-pirated-manga-downloads.html https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/06/33f524714d35-japa...
- the8472 6y ago> It is disingenuous to say Europe or the rest of the world does not care about copyright when they have historically and increasingly laws that are as strict if not stricter than the US' when it comes to preventing copyright infringement. [1][2] Those laws are to some extent pushed through by the US in international treaties on behalf of american copyright holders.
- pessimizer 6y agoThey're the obvious tariff required in every "free trade" treaty.
- sheepdestroyer 6y agoEquating nudity with porn is maybe understandable as a business minded precaution ; It's not less revolting to do so. The fact that many non-european countries would like to deny the freedoms hardly won decades ago is not something that american companies should be happy to share value with either. Cultural relativism will have you banning much more than a nipple if you decide to go that way. Good for business, but not what we should thrive for.
- tedunangst 6y agoThere are several US based sites which allow nipple posting, if that's your thing.
- ben_w 6y agoThere is a big difference between “treated as porn” versus “this part of anatomy is specially evolved to be inserted into the mouth of an infant, so we don’t care if you show pictures of that exact scenario”.
- blacksmith_tb 6y agoI agree bans on images of nursing are absurd, but I am not sure you can make an appeal to evolution - genitals also are 'specially evolved' but also not postable in many places...
- ben_w 6y agoIf my sentence had just been “nipples are fine because they evolved”, that would be a reasonable counter; it is what they have evolved for that makes it weird to censor them as they are censored.
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- suifbwish 6y agoYou can post nipples all day long on Facebook. They just have to be cleverly blended with the rest of the photograph when you do
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- oh_sigh 6y agoAre you uploading the nipple to an American site? Also, most sites ban nudity as a term of service, not as legally required.
- Karishma1234 6y agoThat is why I think it is important USA's monopoly is eventually broken by Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Indian or French companies. Yup, all the platforms will be flawed but we can continue to post nipples on some and compare Xi to Pooh on some.
- herbst 6y agoMany people got banned the last months for promoting masks or talking conspiracies. Imo i would not assume facebook to actually enable free speech.