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I recently created a Matrix channel for my open-source project. It's really quite good. They need to work on the threading (I prefer Slack's model), but really

I recently created a Matrix channel for my open-source project. It's really quite good. They need to work on the threading (I prefer Slack's model), but really it's 90% as good as Slack for my use case of an OSS community.

dijit 6y ago
I know it’s bike-shedding at this point but I really dislike slacks threads. I would highly recommend looking at Zulip and telling me what you think. a good example of Zulip in action is the Rust communities Zulip instance. rust-lang.zulipchat.com
- heinrich5991 6y ago
  Zulip cannot be read without signing up. That's very annoying.
  - punchagan 6y ago
    It is a feature that's currently being worked on actively. You can follow the work here: https://github.com/zulip/zulip/pull/16131 https://github.com/zulip/zulip/pull/16131
- wcerfgba 6y ago
  I much prefer Zulip's thread model to Slack's (it it bolt-on and poorly done: threads have no titles, they get lost in history as there is no way to list threads, and they are optional so people only use them some times), but I prefer Slack's UI to Zulip: in Zulip everything feels a bit 'tight' and too close together. Also the big outline box for keyboard navigation is distracting to me. Seems like an interesting study in developer-driven design: in Zulip the mental model is much better, but the appearance of the UI isn't as nice.
karlicoss 6y ago
There is some ongoing work on threading https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/issues/2349 https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/issues/2349 Apparently it's already in the protocol, just needs UI support from the clients. Not sure if they use Slack model though
- Arathorn 6y ago
  There are two threads (heh) of work on threading in Matrix - one is label-based threading like Zulip: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2326 https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2326, which is implemented today in Synapse but isn't exposed by any(?) clients. The other is full HN/Reddit/Twitter/FB style threading, as per https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2836/files https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2836/files, which has been implemented at https://github.com/matrix-org/cerulean https://github.com/matrix-org/cerulean and if successful will get fast-tracked into Element. Quite what the UX will be is unclear, but it's unlikely to be Slack/MM/Gitter-style.
  - karlicoss 6y ago
    Oh thanks for the info! Even better, I'm not a big fan of Slack threads anyway :)

dijit 6y ago

I know it’s bike-shedding at this point but I really dislike slacks threads. I would highly recommend looking at Zulip and telling me what you think. a good example of Zulip in action is the Rust communities Zulip instance. rust-lang.zulipchat.com

heinrich5991 6y ago
Zulip cannot be read without signing up. That's very annoying.
- punchagan 6y ago
  It is a feature that's currently being worked on actively. You can follow the work here: https://github.com/zulip/zulip/pull/16131 https://github.com/zulip/zulip/pull/16131
wcerfgba 6y ago
I much prefer Zulip's thread model to Slack's (it it bolt-on and poorly done: threads have no titles, they get lost in history as there is no way to list threads, and they are optional so people only use them some times), but I prefer Slack's UI to Zulip: in Zulip everything feels a bit 'tight' and too close together. Also the big outline box for keyboard navigation is distracting to me. Seems like an interesting study in developer-driven design: in Zulip the mental model is much better, but the appearance of the UI isn't as nice.

karlicoss 6y ago

There is some ongoing work on threading https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/issues/2349 https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/issues/2349 Apparently it's already in the protocol, just needs UI support from the clients. Not sure if they use Slack model though

Arathorn 6y ago
There are two threads (heh) of work on threading in Matrix - one is label-based threading like Zulip: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2326 https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2326, which is implemented today in Synapse but isn't exposed by any(?) clients. The other is full HN/Reddit/Twitter/FB style threading, as per https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2836/files https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2836/files, which has been implemented at https://github.com/matrix-org/cerulean https://github.com/matrix-org/cerulean and if successful will get fast-tracked into Element. Quite what the UX will be is unclear, but it's unlikely to be Slack/MM/Gitter-style.
- karlicoss 6y ago
  Oh thanks for the info! Even better, I'm not a big fan of Slack threads anyway :)