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Of course. I just don't see what's on the other side of this tradeoff. What was gained through the redesign?
by st1x7 6y ago
Of course. I just don't see what's on the other side of this tradeoff. What was gained through the redesign?
- seanwilson 6y agoDid you mean this example? https://www.andrewdenty.com/blog/assets/img/macos-new-ui/notes/0-notes-first-launch-macos-catalina-big-sur-comparison.png https://www.andrewdenty.com/blog/assets/img/macos-new-ui/not... The actions bar redesign looks good to me. It's obvious they're buttons to me. It looks cleaner, more modern and less cluttered than before to me. Having the buttons not draw your eye too much can be good if they're rarely used because your focus is drawn to more important parts of the UI. Not keen on the poor contrast white on mustard coloured button though. What would you give out of the 10 for the design before and after? Is it really so bad or just a little worse for you?
- shard 6y agoWithout edges on the buttons, you no longer know where you can click. The affordances thus have shrank to the edge of the images themselves, reducing usability, especially for people who have motor control issues.
- seanwilson 6y ago> Without edges on the buttons, you no longer know where you can click. I don't see the issue. It's obvious to me by looking that they're buttons and users aim to click in the middle so if they miss by a little it's likely going to work if you mean that. Even if it was an issue, it sounds like a very small one and a tradeoff for a cleaner look. Nothing is perfect.
- shard 6y agoIt is sometimes not easy for those of us who are used to technology to see the struggles of others who are not. I know that my parents have had a hard time identifying flat design buttons such as these, not realizing that there are buttons until I pointed them out.
- w0utert 6y agoThe buttons do highlight when you move over them, so it's entirely clear if you hit them if you would click. Or is that not what you mean by the 'affordances' of these buttons?
- shard 6y agoAh then that would mitigate the issue a bit. It would obviously be better for pointe targeting purposes if the button edges are visible ahead of time so that users know where it's acceptable for their pointers to land, but having them show up when the pointer hovers over them would help some.
- paulmooreparks 6y agoThis means the user has to roll the mouse around to discover what's clickable. That's not usable, it's frustrating.
- w0utert 6y agoIn the case of the tool buttons in macOS windows my feeling is that this is really is splitting hairs. Literally everything that is not the same color as the toolbar itself is clickable. The frustration or the supposed 'cognitive overload' is purely theoretical.
- iguy 6y agoIt's a bit harder to know where you can click. It's also harder to know where you can drag. Which bits of the title bar can I use to move this window around? If I try that next to the expanding search field, will it work?
- karmakaze 6y agoAnd that nondescript empty space between the share and search icons?
- 72deluxe 6y agoSnow blindness seems to come to the UI! And I thought the Windows 10 Settings app was bad but this takes the biscuit.