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Windows mobile wasn't going to change the world. That said, I'd love to see a real alternative to iOS and Android if for no reason than my phone is a very power

Windows mobile wasn't going to change the world. That said, I'd love to see a real alternative to iOS and Android if for no reason than my phone is a very powerful, very real computer and I can't use it as such.

fctorial 6y ago
https://termux.com/ https://termux.com/
ocdtrekkie 6y ago
You say this, but in 2020, Google is still working on adding features Windows Mobile had in 2014. As a former WinMo user, it's sad watching everyone else finally catching up.
- noisem4ker 6y ago
  Any examples? I can think of one, but in the opposite way: how Google removed the Exchange integration service from Android.
  - ocdtrekkie 6y ago
    Watching Apple and Google both adopt dark mode recently was entertaining, Google is still trying to support dark mode across their product suite: Windows Mobile supported dark mode across the entire platform and suggested app developers do as well since the WP7 days. And then of course, you have both Google flirting with Android apps on Chromebooks, and the new M1 Macs being able to run iOS apps, when Universal Windows Apps were a thing over five years ago. They've all had this a little while, but Microsoft was ahead of the game on being able to allow/deny individual permissions to given apps before either Apple or Google was as well. I mean, Microsoft didn't have the market capture, but their platform was technologically in 2015 where their competitors are in 2020.
swebs 6y ago
There are full Linux distros for phones nowadays. They're still in alpha stages, but they're getting better all the time https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone_Software_Releases https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone_Software_Releases
- pessimizer 6y ago
  But that's been true for at least 15 years. It's still very difficult to get a reliable, usable Linux phone, and betting on one being right around the corner has been a long term bad bet. I say that as someone who still uses an N900. Can't wait until I can get Nemo on a reasonably priced modern phone.
rfvrgvegbegn 6y ago
Then you can support PinePhone / Purism Librem. It's still very far from being as mature as IOS/Android, but it is our only hope of an alternative that respect us. The long term vision is exactly what you said, convinance & security of a smartphone with, for those who wish, the openness and power of a computer
jhasse 6y ago
https://e.foundation https://e.foundation
- dingaling 6y ago
  That's a fork of LineageOS so you're still using Android
  - jhasse 6y ago
    Yes, but it lacks Google "stuff", which is exactly what's wrong about Android.
- javierseballos 6y ago
  just please don't put this shit as a real alternative! Other ones mentionned all have their pros and cons imo but are worth the mention :)
  - jhasse 6y ago
    what's wrong with it?

fctorial 6y ago

https://termux.com/ https://termux.com/

ocdtrekkie 6y ago

You say this, but in 2020, Google is still working on adding features Windows Mobile had in 2014. As a former WinMo user, it's sad watching everyone else finally catching up.

noisem4ker 6y ago
Any examples? I can think of one, but in the opposite way: how Google removed the Exchange integration service from Android.
- ocdtrekkie 6y ago
  Watching Apple and Google both adopt dark mode recently was entertaining, Google is still trying to support dark mode across their product suite: Windows Mobile supported dark mode across the entire platform and suggested app developers do as well since the WP7 days. And then of course, you have both Google flirting with Android apps on Chromebooks, and the new M1 Macs being able to run iOS apps, when Universal Windows Apps were a thing over five years ago. They've all had this a little while, but Microsoft was ahead of the game on being able to allow/deny individual permissions to given apps before either Apple or Google was as well. I mean, Microsoft didn't have the market capture, but their platform was technologically in 2015 where their competitors are in 2020.

swebs 6y ago

There are full Linux distros for phones nowadays. They're still in alpha stages, but they're getting better all the time https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone_Software_Releases https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone_Software_Releases

pessimizer 6y ago
But that's been true for at least 15 years. It's still very difficult to get a reliable, usable Linux phone, and betting on one being right around the corner has been a long term bad bet. I say that as someone who still uses an N900. Can't wait until I can get Nemo on a reasonably priced modern phone.

rfvrgvegbegn 6y ago

Then you can support PinePhone / Purism Librem. It's still very far from being as mature as IOS/Android, but it is our only hope of an alternative that respect us. The long term vision is exactly what you said, convinance & security of a smartphone with, for those who wish, the openness and power of a computer

jhasse 6y ago

https://e.foundation https://e.foundation

dingaling 6y ago
That's a fork of LineageOS so you're still using Android
- jhasse 6y ago
  Yes, but it lacks Google "stuff", which is exactly what's wrong about Android.
javierseballos 6y ago
just please don't put this shit as a real alternative! Other ones mentionned all have their pros and cons imo but are worth the mention :)
- jhasse 6y ago
  what's wrong with it?