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But your phone is still connecting out to the internet and therefore using your data allowance.

BenjiWiebe 6y ago
But instead of loading an ad or sending telemetry, it will merely query DNS and then give up.
411111111111111 6y ago
But it won't be able to download the ads, so only the dns query will go over the air. If you're using Android: Blokada from f-droid is another option if you want to skip even that.
chrisseaton 6y ago
I think most people have basically unlimited data these days, and I'm sure nobody is worrying about the cost of a DNS request.
- BlueTemplar 6y ago
  Aren't smartphones starting to penetrate third world countries?
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    Yes. Is that relevant? Their data is often cheaper than ours!
    - BlueTemplar 6y ago
      Which 'ours' ? Cheaper compared to the income & cost of life ? With the median world income being $30/month, I doubt so !
      - chrisseaton 6y ago
        > With the median world income being $30/month, I doubt so ! First of all, this isn't even true - it's around $240/month. https://news.gallup.com/poll/166211/worldwide-median-household-income-000.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/166211/worldwide-median-househo... Second, people living in those countries aren't buying US data plans at US prices are they? You don't live in the Congo but shop for your data plan at a California strip-mall, do you?
        BlueTemplar 6y ago
        Oh, right, I confused median with '1 dollar per day' extreme poverty line : https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty Which should be around 5% these days. > Second, people living in those countries aren't buying US data plans at US prices are they? You don't live in the Congo but shop for your data plan at a California strip-mall, do you? Ok, so what are these prices ? https://www.cellularabroad.com/packages-congo.html#tabs-2 https://www.cellularabroad.com/packages-congo.html#tabs-2 That's $100/Go for 3G. (Which is still 10 times cheaper than my first data plan !) But I suspect that this website is directed to rich westerners, anyone from third world countries here that might shine a light on this issue ?
        411111111111111 6y ago
        I pay 19.99 € for 10gb and unlimited G3 after (Germany). It varies wildly between countries. I know some eastern nations that have 50gb G4 for 10-15€, which is about as much as you'd pay for 1 meal in a pretty cheap restaurant.
        BlueTemplar 6y ago
        You consider Germany and eastern (Europe?) to be third world nations ??
- celsoazevedo 6y ago
  Most people I know don't have unlimited data. My plan, for example, gives me 10GB/month. In any case, DNS queries shouldn't be a problem for most users.
  - stan_rogers 6y ago
    In my neck of the woods, "unlimited" means 10GB uncapped, with throttling to just about good ol' ADSL speeds after that.

But instead of loading an ad or sending telemetry, it will merely query DNS and then give up.

But it won't be able to download the ads, so only the dns query will go over the air. If you're using Android: Blokada from f-droid is another option if you want to skip even that.

chrisseaton 6y ago

I think most people have basically unlimited data these days, and I'm sure nobody is worrying about the cost of a DNS request.

BlueTemplar 6y ago
Aren't smartphones starting to penetrate third world countries?
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  Yes. Is that relevant? Their data is often cheaper than ours!
  - BlueTemplar 6y ago
    Which 'ours' ? Cheaper compared to the income & cost of life ? With the median world income being $30/month, I doubt so !
    - chrisseaton 6y ago
      > With the median world income being $30/month, I doubt so ! First of all, this isn't even true - it's around $240/month. https://news.gallup.com/poll/166211/worldwide-median-household-income-000.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/166211/worldwide-median-househo... Second, people living in those countries aren't buying US data plans at US prices are they? You don't live in the Congo but shop for your data plan at a California strip-mall, do you?
      - BlueTemplar 6y ago
        Oh, right, I confused median with '1 dollar per day' extreme poverty line : https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty Which should be around 5% these days. > Second, people living in those countries aren't buying US data plans at US prices are they? You don't live in the Congo but shop for your data plan at a California strip-mall, do you? Ok, so what are these prices ? https://www.cellularabroad.com/packages-congo.html#tabs-2 https://www.cellularabroad.com/packages-congo.html#tabs-2 That's $100/Go for 3G. (Which is still 10 times cheaper than my first data plan !) But I suspect that this website is directed to rich westerners, anyone from third world countries here that might shine a light on this issue ?
        411111111111111 6y ago
        I pay 19.99 € for 10gb and unlimited G3 after (Germany). It varies wildly between countries. I know some eastern nations that have 50gb G4 for 10-15€, which is about as much as you'd pay for 1 meal in a pretty cheap restaurant.
        BlueTemplar 6y ago
        You consider Germany and eastern (Europe?) to be third world nations ??
celsoazevedo 6y ago
Most people I know don't have unlimited data. My plan, for example, gives me 10GB/month. In any case, DNS queries shouldn't be a problem for most users.
- stan_rogers 6y ago
  In my neck of the woods, "unlimited" means 10GB uncapped, with throttling to just about good ol' ADSL speeds after that.