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I keep wanting to try Puppet, but they have very effectively hidden the OSS version. Where the hell is it?

by joshwa 15y ago

burgerbrain 15y ago
http://www.puppetlabs.com/misc/download-options/ http://www.puppetlabs.com/misc/download-options/ What the hell are you talking about, that was linked right off their homepage as "Download". Can't really be any less hidden than that.
- dangrossman 15y ago
  Is it? "Download" links here: http://info.puppetlabs.com/download http://info.puppetlabs.com/download Then I have to click a link at the bottom to here: http://info.puppetlabs.com/register-download http://info.puppetlabs.com/register-download Then I have to scroll to the bottom to skip registration and get to the page you linked.
  - burgerbrain 15y ago
    I only see the register page when I go there, which doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
- joshwa 15y ago
  Plenty of enterprise software products have "Download" pages, but they're usually for evaluation versions. I tried clicking two different download links on the home page: https://img.skitch.com/20110503-pa1axqcg8njxqc4t4gcd756j16.jpg https://img.skitch.com/20110503-pa1axqcg8njxqc4t4gcd756j16.j... Both of which take you to this form: https://img.skitch.com/20110503-e8a87jdr5ns9asabt1yyyn2jib.jpg https://img.skitch.com/20110503-e8a87jdr5ns9asabt1yyyn2jib.j... which has no reference to the open source edition. The next place I check is "Community" since that's often where "Community Editions" live. No reference on any of those pages to the development of the core product, only add-ons. If I click yet a third download link, in the secondary navigation, I get a nearly-identical form: https://img.skitch.com/20110503-j37g25rkatu2r626ykt2xp3jqp.jpg https://img.skitch.com/20110503-j37g25rkatu2r626ykt2xp3jqp.j... Which says I can only download "related Puppet components". Which takes me to yet another form: https://img.skitch.com/20110503-gxtt1bg614t23gqnqnhxhans3y.jpg https://img.skitch.com/20110503-gxtt1bg614t23gqnqnhxhans3y.j... With a no-registration-required link buried at the bottom. Which takes me to the aforementioned "Download" page: https://img.skitch.com/20110503-fnshtrwdmmd7xkfnm2gk1xsriy.jpg https://img.skitch.com/20110503-fnshtrwdmmd7xkfnm2gk1xsriy.j... which has no reference to the fact that it's the open-source version I'm downloading. If I scroll ALL the way down to the bottom, I see a link to the source on Github. There is only one mention of the word GPL on the main Puppet site, and that's in a blog post from a few days ago announcing the license switch. I stand my my assertion that the OSS product is very well hidden.
pyre 15y ago
http://www.puppetlabs.com/misc/download-options/ http://www.puppetlabs.com/misc/download-options/
Schmidt 15y ago
I'd say it is easier to just do "gem install puppet" if you have ruby already installed.
- RyanGWU82 15y ago
  And "apt-get install puppet" if you're on Debian or Ubuntu.
- jarin 15y ago
  https://github.com/railsmachine/moonshine https://github.com/railsmachine/moonshine if you're deploying a Rails app to a VPS like Linode or Slicehost. It's a handy wrapper around puppet that lets you go from bare server to fully deployed Rails app with one config file, two commands, and about 10 minutes of automated package installs.
  - sibsibsib 15y ago
    this looks pretty cool. Happen to know any similar projects for python?
dspillett 15y ago
Unless you particularly need the absolutely latest version (or further up-to-date, the bleeding edge development version) then aptitude install puppet (or the yum equivalent, or what-ever your chosen OS setup's package management is based on) should do the trick and you'll get security updates along with your usual update process and library dependencies (if you are missing any) will be handled for you.

I keep wanting to try Puppet, but they have very effectively hidden the OSS version. Where the hell is it?

by joshwa 15y ago

I keep wanting to try Puppet, but they have very effectively hidden the OSS version. Where the hell is it?

http://www.puppetlabs.com/misc/download-options/ http://www.puppetlabs.com/misc/download-options/ What the hell are you talking about, that was linked right off their homepage as "Download". Can't really be any less hidden than that.

dangrossman 15y ago
Is it? "Download" links here: http://info.puppetlabs.com/download http://info.puppetlabs.com/download Then I have to click a link at the bottom to here: http://info.puppetlabs.com/register-download http://info.puppetlabs.com/register-download Then I have to scroll to the bottom to skip registration and get to the page you linked.
- burgerbrain 15y ago
  I only see the register page when I go there, which doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
joshwa 15y ago
Plenty of enterprise software products have "Download" pages, but they're usually for evaluation versions. I tried clicking two different download links on the home page: https://img.skitch.com/20110503-pa1axqcg8njxqc4t4gcd756j16.jpg https://img.skitch.com/20110503-pa1axqcg8njxqc4t4gcd756j16.j... Both of which take you to this form: https://img.skitch.com/20110503-e8a87jdr5ns9asabt1yyyn2jib.jpg https://img.skitch.com/20110503-e8a87jdr5ns9asabt1yyyn2jib.j... which has no reference to the open source edition. The next place I check is "Community" since that's often where "Community Editions" live. No reference on any of those pages to the development of the core product, only add-ons. If I click yet a third download link, in the secondary navigation, I get a nearly-identical form: https://img.skitch.com/20110503-j37g25rkatu2r626ykt2xp3jqp.jpg https://img.skitch.com/20110503-j37g25rkatu2r626ykt2xp3jqp.j... Which says I can only download "related Puppet components". Which takes me to yet another form: https://img.skitch.com/20110503-gxtt1bg614t23gqnqnhxhans3y.jpg https://img.skitch.com/20110503-gxtt1bg614t23gqnqnhxhans3y.j... With a no-registration-required link buried at the bottom. Which takes me to the aforementioned "Download" page: https://img.skitch.com/20110503-fnshtrwdmmd7xkfnm2gk1xsriy.jpg https://img.skitch.com/20110503-fnshtrwdmmd7xkfnm2gk1xsriy.j... which has no reference to the fact that it's the open-source version I'm downloading. If I scroll ALL the way down to the bottom, I see a link to the source on Github. There is only one mention of the word GPL on the main Puppet site, and that's in a blog post from a few days ago announcing the license switch. I stand my my assertion that the OSS product is very well hidden.

pyre 15y ago

http://www.puppetlabs.com/misc/download-options/ http://www.puppetlabs.com/misc/download-options/

Schmidt 15y ago

I'd say it is easier to just do "gem install puppet" if you have ruby already installed.

RyanGWU82 15y ago
And "apt-get install puppet" if you're on Debian or Ubuntu.
jarin 15y ago
https://github.com/railsmachine/moonshine https://github.com/railsmachine/moonshine if you're deploying a Rails app to a VPS like Linode or Slicehost. It's a handy wrapper around puppet that lets you go from bare server to fully deployed Rails app with one config file, two commands, and about 10 minutes of automated package installs.
- sibsibsib 15y ago
  this looks pretty cool. Happen to know any similar projects for python?

dspillett 15y ago

Unless you particularly need the absolutely latest version (or further up-to-date, the bleeding edge development version) then aptitude install puppet (or the yum equivalent, or what-ever your chosen OS setup's package management is based on) should do the trick and you'll get security updates along with your usual update process and library dependencies (if you are missing any) will be handled for you.