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It's ridicolous to suggest that nylon stockings could have been invented only under capitalism. Plenty of inventions and discovery happened also under communism

It's ridicolous to suggest that nylon stockings could have been invented only under capitalism. Plenty of inventions and discovery happened also under communism.

emteycz 6y ago
Yeah, but only focusing on the largest of megaprojects, and even that failed horribly after some time. Products for the normal people were of horrendous quality and mostly no innovation happened.
- thesz 6y ago
  I think I should point your attention to the MIR (МИР, Машина для Инженерных Расчётов - Engineer's Computer) [1] and Setun [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIR_(computer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIR_(computer) [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setun The first one had pretty much high level language programming circa 1965 (Elbrus came later and iAXP432 much later). The second one used ternary logic which is closer to exp(0) and is more efficient. The "products for people" innovation in USSR was to make sure that everyone has heated home - and heating was centralized in USSR (and now in Russia too), which made it much cheaper and affordable. It was in different direction and without pervasive advertising. PS Many inventions happened also before capitalism.
  - nickff 6y ago
    Inventions are one thing, but mass availability and affordability are another. I recall seeing an interview with Mikhail Gorbachev where he talked about how embarrassing it was that the Soviet Union could send men to space, but failed to produce pantyhose (of quality , in quantity).
    - thesz 6y ago
      Mikhail Gorbachev, as a person somewhat responsible for collapse of USSR, had an incentive to paint USSR in a certain light in his interview, wouldn't you agree? I grew in USSR (I was born in 1971 in Moscow) and I do not remember any scarcity of stockings.

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It's ridicolous to suggest that nylon stockings could have been invented only under capitalism. Plenty of inventions and discovery happened also under communism

by pietrovismara 6y ago

It's ridicolous to suggest that nylon stockings could have been invented only under capitalism. Plenty of inventions and discovery happened also under communism.

emteycz 6y ago
Yeah, but only focusing on the largest of megaprojects, and even that failed horribly after some time. Products for the normal people were of horrendous quality and mostly no innovation happened.
- thesz 6y ago
  I think I should point your attention to the MIR (МИР, Машина для Инженерных Расчётов - Engineer's Computer) [1] and Setun [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIR_(computer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIR_(computer) [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setun The first one had pretty much high level language programming circa 1965 (Elbrus came later and iAXP432 much later). The second one used ternary logic which is closer to exp(0) and is more efficient. The "products for people" innovation in USSR was to make sure that everyone has heated home - and heating was centralized in USSR (and now in Russia too), which made it much cheaper and affordable. It was in different direction and without pervasive advertising. PS Many inventions happened also before capitalism.
  - nickff 6y ago
    Inventions are one thing, but mass availability and affordability are another. I recall seeing an interview with Mikhail Gorbachev where he talked about how embarrassing it was that the Soviet Union could send men to space, but failed to produce pantyhose (of quality , in quantity).
    - thesz 6y ago
      Mikhail Gorbachev, as a person somewhat responsible for collapse of USSR, had an incentive to paint USSR in a certain light in his interview, wouldn't you agree? I grew in USSR (I was born in 1971 in Moscow) and I do not remember any scarcity of stockings.