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Democratic-led, not Democrat-led. And Democratic representatives, not Democrat representatives. It's the Democratic party, not the Democrat party. Use Democrat

by js2 6y ago

Democratic-led, not Democrat-led. And Democratic representatives, not Democrat representatives. It's the Democratic party, not the Democrat party. Use Democrat only as a noun. The correct adjective is Democratic. This is an ongoing rhetorical war by the GOP to fail to acknowledge the Democratic Party by its proper name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)

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CincinnatiMan 6y ago
Is this really a thing? To be honest, this sounds like something only Twitter would care about.
- bsanr2 6y ago
  He literally linked the Wikipedia article explaining the history and dynamics of its use, dude.
  - CincinnatiMan 6y ago
    Sorry, I meant my question more as is it really a thing that the average person is aware of and cares about. I consider myself pretty educated and I've never heard of this little underground war on the terminology, and I can't see many people caring except hypervigilant Twitter users. Like ask 95% of the population and they'll probably not see a difference between the words. It just seems like a silly thing to care about.
    - bsanr2 6y ago
      Anyone who watches Fox News is exposed to it, and the first time someone corrects them, they're liable to double-down. So, no, I don't think it's a fringe thing at all.
  - meragrin_ 6y ago
    They literally call themselves democrats. That's their primary identity to the average person. "Democratic Party" and "Democratic representative" are rarely uttered outside the circle of democrats even by democrats. Democrat party is just a shortened form of party of the democrats. Why would any normal person refer to it to anything other than the democrat party when "democrat" is word most associated with the party? The democrats set themselves up as the democrat party.
meragrin_ 6y ago
I could understand the complaint if people were using demonrat or democRAT, but not just democrat. The Democratic Party members refer to themselves as democrats. How often does the average person hear the word democratic versus democrat? I don't understand how using the more commonly used word related to a party is some rhetorical war or epithet when people outside of the Democratic Party rarely ever hear democrats use the words "Democratic Party" or "Democratic representative". If they don't want to be referred to as the democrat party, they need to stop referring to themselves as democrats. Until then, people are going to use "democrat party" as the shortened form of "the party of the democrats".
- js2 6y ago
  This isn't a complaint. This is a statement of fact. It's called the Democratic Party, not the Democrat Party. The correct adjective to use when referring to its members is Democratic. Why is this important in a larger context? Because there's a faction of this country who doesn't like to acknowledge that the US is a democracy. A faction who feels justified in maintaining existing anti-democratic structures in order to retain power while not being able to win the popular vote. That same faction wants to divorce the concept of democracy itself from the Democratic Party. This rhetorical war didn't happen by accident, just like referring to the estate tax as a death tax didn't happen by accident. Especially in print, where there's no confusion between (small-d) democratic and (capital D) Democratic, I refuse to cede ground on this. Lastly, you should call people like they like to be called. I am a Democratic voter, not a Democrat voter. More importantly, I'm a democratic voter. Again, I link you to the wikipedia page on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)
  - salamimonger 6y ago
    Democrat Party. You are a Democrat voter. Not an insult, just a statement. I'm saying it only because you appear so offended by it. I'm from California and no one cares dude. This is why we keep losing with the working class and regular people. Because we have our heads stuck in our asses over some terminology instead of focusing on issues that affect poor people. Have a good day.
Smaug123 6y ago
I'd say "Democrat-led" is fine, just as "programmer-led" would be fine. "I am a Democrat"/"I am a programmer"; "I am in the Democratic party"/"I am in a programmers' union".

by js2 6y ago

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CincinnatiMan 6y ago

Is this really a thing? To be honest, this sounds like something only Twitter would care about.

bsanr2 6y ago
He literally linked the Wikipedia article explaining the history and dynamics of its use, dude.
- CincinnatiMan 6y ago
  Sorry, I meant my question more as is it really a thing that the average person is aware of and cares about. I consider myself pretty educated and I've never heard of this little underground war on the terminology, and I can't see many people caring except hypervigilant Twitter users. Like ask 95% of the population and they'll probably not see a difference between the words. It just seems like a silly thing to care about.
  - bsanr2 6y ago
    Anyone who watches Fox News is exposed to it, and the first time someone corrects them, they're liable to double-down. So, no, I don't think it's a fringe thing at all.
- meragrin_ 6y ago
  They literally call themselves democrats. That's their primary identity to the average person. "Democratic Party" and "Democratic representative" are rarely uttered outside the circle of democrats even by democrats. Democrat party is just a shortened form of party of the democrats. Why would any normal person refer to it to anything other than the democrat party when "democrat" is word most associated with the party? The democrats set themselves up as the democrat party.

meragrin_ 6y ago

I could understand the complaint if people were using demonrat or democRAT, but not just democrat. The Democratic Party members refer to themselves as democrats. How often does the average person hear the word democratic versus democrat? I don't understand how using the more commonly used word related to a party is some rhetorical war or epithet when people outside of the Democratic Party rarely ever hear democrats use the words "Democratic Party" or "Democratic representative". If they don't want to be referred to as the democrat party, they need to stop referring to themselves as democrats. Until then, people are going to use "democrat party" as the shortened form of "the party of the democrats".

js2 6y ago
This isn't a complaint. This is a statement of fact. It's called the Democratic Party, not the Democrat Party. The correct adjective to use when referring to its members is Democratic. Why is this important in a larger context? Because there's a faction of this country who doesn't like to acknowledge that the US is a democracy. A faction who feels justified in maintaining existing anti-democratic structures in order to retain power while not being able to win the popular vote. That same faction wants to divorce the concept of democracy itself from the Democratic Party. This rhetorical war didn't happen by accident, just like referring to the estate tax as a death tax didn't happen by accident. Especially in print, where there's no confusion between (small-d) democratic and (capital D) Democratic, I refuse to cede ground on this. Lastly, you should call people like they like to be called. I am a Democratic voter, not a Democrat voter. More importantly, I'm a democratic voter. Again, I link you to the wikipedia page on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)
- salamimonger 6y ago
  Democrat Party. You are a Democrat voter. Not an insult, just a statement. I'm saying it only because you appear so offended by it. I'm from California and no one cares dude. This is why we keep losing with the working class and regular people. Because we have our heads stuck in our asses over some terminology instead of focusing on issues that affect poor people. Have a good day.

Smaug123 6y ago

I'd say "Democrat-led" is fine, just as "programmer-led" would be fine. "I am a Democrat"/"I am a programmer"; "I am in the Democratic party"/"I am in a programmers' union".