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Why does Apple get the Professional OS nod when EVERY update is a break in your workflow Majorly. Heck every Mac is always on a different update because they ar

Why does Apple get the Professional OS nod when EVERY update is a break in your workflow Majorly. Heck every Mac is always on a different update because they are scared to even update in Mac only cooperate networks like mine. It has always been a pain in my video editing life too.

coldtea 6y ago
>Why does Apple get the Professional OS nod when EVERY update is a break in your workflow Majorly. Because every update usually also moves things forward. E.g. on Big Sur they moved third party kernel extensions to userland ones. That's safer, less crash prone (an extension issue doesn't bring down the whole system), more modular, makes it possible to upgrade an extension without a reboot, and so on. Check PC forums of pro music users how often they have issues with drivers, incompatibilities, updates, etc. And that's not with "switching to a major new architecture" issue, or "moving kernel extensions to userland" type fairs, which are major changes and can understandably bring issues with them (but can be totally worth it long term). It's just incompatibilities between the million different hardware combinations you can find in a PC, Windows issues, etc. >Heck every Mac is always on a different update because they are scared to even update in Mac only cooperate networks like mine. Actually it has been reported time and again that Macs are among the fastest percentage wise to move to the latest OS version compared to Windows PCs, with something like 70% having moved over in a couple of months...
- alacombe 6y ago
  > Because every update usually also moves things forward. Just because something move forward doesn't means it moves in the right direction. > And because they still have the better OS/hardware combo. Do they ? How many brain-time did Apple waste yesterday by soft-bricking ALL THE DAMN MACS running Canalina ?
  - coldtea 6y ago
    >Just because something move forward doesn't means it moves in the right direction. Sure. In this case though I meant "in the right direction" too. I, for one, welcome third party kernel extensions moving to userland. >Do they ? How many brain-time did Apple waste yesterday by soft-bricking ALL THE DAMN MACS running Canalina ? A little. Nothing like the brain-months I've wasted on Windows and Linux troubleshooting, and I've been using Windows for ~30 years, and Linux for ~20 (plus several UNIX varieties of yore, like SunOS, Solaris, and AIX, with the ocassional toying with FreeBSD as well). I'm annoyed by several things in Apple land as well (e.g. the keyboards on the last 3 years on laptops, the firewall bypass situation in Big Sur, the not-so-useful touch strip, and lots of minor issues), but I'm also annoyed by the "grass is greener" sentiment all the time, or the "sky is falling/Stallman was right" rhetoric...
    - innocenat 6y ago
      Maybe I am doing something wrong here, but I use Windows for 10 years, then switch Ubuntu for 5, and Mac for less than a year right now (so I am on Catalina). I feel that I spend 2-3x times troubleshoot my mac than Ubuntu. I still haven't been able to find a cause for intermittent entire UI froze I experience 2-3 times a day.
      - bartvk 6y ago
        Entire UI freeze? Don't accept this, record the occurrences of this, and bring it back to the store.
        figassis 6y ago
        Many forget that a large number of Mac customers are not US based. In fact, many live in areas with no apple stores at all. Seems to me that apple is glad to sell to everyone but only really care about a few.
        alacombe 6y ago
        And even US based folks might now have an Apple Store within reasonable driving distance.
bfuclusion 6y ago
IMO 10.5 was peak OSX. Every other later one has smacked me upside the head with something going wrong.
nikanj 6y ago
Because at least Apple won’t reboot to install updates 3 minutes before a set begins

coldtea 6y ago

>Why does Apple get the Professional OS nod when EVERY update is a break in your workflow Majorly. Because every update usually also moves things forward. E.g. on Big Sur they moved third party kernel extensions to userland ones. That's safer, less crash prone (an extension issue doesn't bring down the whole system), more modular, makes it possible to upgrade an extension without a reboot, and so on. Check PC forums of pro music users how often they have issues with drivers, incompatibilities, updates, etc. And that's not with "switching to a major new architecture" issue, or "moving kernel extensions to userland" type fairs, which are major changes and can understandably bring issues with them (but can be totally worth it long term). It's just incompatibilities between the million different hardware combinations you can find in a PC, Windows issues, etc. >Heck every Mac is always on a different update because they are scared to even update in Mac only cooperate networks like mine. Actually it has been reported time and again that Macs are among the fastest percentage wise to move to the latest OS version compared to Windows PCs, with something like 70% having moved over in a couple of months...

alacombe 6y ago
> Because every update usually also moves things forward. Just because something move forward doesn't means it moves in the right direction. > And because they still have the better OS/hardware combo. Do they ? How many brain-time did Apple waste yesterday by soft-bricking ALL THE DAMN MACS running Canalina ?
- coldtea 6y ago
  >Just because something move forward doesn't means it moves in the right direction. Sure. In this case though I meant "in the right direction" too. I, for one, welcome third party kernel extensions moving to userland. >Do they ? How many brain-time did Apple waste yesterday by soft-bricking ALL THE DAMN MACS running Canalina ? A little. Nothing like the brain-months I've wasted on Windows and Linux troubleshooting, and I've been using Windows for ~30 years, and Linux for ~20 (plus several UNIX varieties of yore, like SunOS, Solaris, and AIX, with the ocassional toying with FreeBSD as well). I'm annoyed by several things in Apple land as well (e.g. the keyboards on the last 3 years on laptops, the firewall bypass situation in Big Sur, the not-so-useful touch strip, and lots of minor issues), but I'm also annoyed by the "grass is greener" sentiment all the time, or the "sky is falling/Stallman was right" rhetoric...
  - innocenat 6y ago
    Maybe I am doing something wrong here, but I use Windows for 10 years, then switch Ubuntu for 5, and Mac for less than a year right now (so I am on Catalina). I feel that I spend 2-3x times troubleshoot my mac than Ubuntu. I still haven't been able to find a cause for intermittent entire UI froze I experience 2-3 times a day.
    - bartvk 6y ago
      Entire UI freeze? Don't accept this, record the occurrences of this, and bring it back to the store.
      - figassis 6y ago
        Many forget that a large number of Mac customers are not US based. In fact, many live in areas with no apple stores at all. Seems to me that apple is glad to sell to everyone but only really care about a few.
        alacombe 6y ago
        And even US based folks might now have an Apple Store within reasonable driving distance.

bfuclusion 6y ago

IMO 10.5 was peak OSX. Every other later one has smacked me upside the head with something going wrong.

nikanj 6y ago

Because at least Apple won’t reboot to install updates 3 minutes before a set begins