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There were multiple Tesla fires, and they nerfed barriers as a response, without issuing recall (https://electrek.co/2019/10/04/tesla-software-updat-battery-cap

There were multiple Tesla fires, and they nerfed barriers as a response, without issuing recall (https://electrek.co/2019/10/04/tesla-software-updat-battery-capacity-loss-fire-investigation-nhtsa/ https://electrek.co/2019/10/04/tesla-software-updat-battery-...)

jsight 6y ago
Although the nerfed Tesla batteries still charge faster than a brand new Bolt.
- lambdasquirrel 6y ago
  Sure, but a Model S costs around twice as much as a Bolt so you’d expect something for that money.
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  - omgwtfbyobbq 6y ago
    That's a good point. I think it only applies to the older Model S, and they may have paid 3-4x more than a Bolt, although the Bolt may not have been available when most of those were purchased. The 3 and newer S/X should be good.
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  - jsight 6y ago
    The Model S is much larger and faster than the bolt, so they definitely got some things for that money.
lostlogin 6y ago
I’m now old. Nerfed: The term "nerfing" comes from the online gaming world of Ultima Online. At one point in the game, the developers reduced the power of swords in melee combat. This resulted in players complaining that it was like they were hitting each other with nerf bats, not swords. From then on, if ever something gets made less worth while than it had been originally, it is considered 'nerfed' From https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nerfed https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nerfed
- noja 6y ago
  Pretty sure Nerf preceded Ultima Online https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerf
  - Semaphor 6y ago
    That is what the preceding comment implies. After all, "nerf bats" directly references them. What was new, was simply the usage of making something worse.
  - austhrow743 6y ago
    It would have to for the comment to make sense.
  - tc313 6y ago
    Nerf the noun did, but not nerf the verb.
  - ineedasername 6y ago
    Nerf in a game context was metaphorical, based on Nerf guns. Nerf guns' damage capability was a significant downgrade compared to a real gun. A previously powerful item in a game that was "Nerfed" was therefore a significant downgrade in capability.
ineedasername 6y ago
Yep, they've already worked through any number of issues to achieve their level of performance. In fact they may have already worked through something similar to this particular issue: Those nerfed batteries in your link were nerfed by the same ~10% loss that GM has had to place on Bolts, implying it was the high charge causing both issues. Most telling, Teslas's issue was with batteries they stopped using 4 years ago. I don't know if that signifies a 4-year lead on GM, but they're certainly ahead.
- numpad0 6y ago
  They degraded in that 4 years(2-3 at time of incidents) time, and when put under stresses, they caught fire. Tesla vehicles are not configured to avoid stressing their packs, therefore users were not made aware of degradations. Isn’t this simple enough and correct enough? I’m tired of their social media native ads. Let’s keep it simple.

jsight 6y ago

Although the nerfed Tesla batteries still charge faster than a brand new Bolt.

lambdasquirrel 6y ago
Sure, but a Model S costs around twice as much as a Bolt so you’d expect something for that money.
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- omgwtfbyobbq 6y ago
  That's a good point. I think it only applies to the older Model S, and they may have paid 3-4x more than a Bolt, although the Bolt may not have been available when most of those were purchased. The 3 and newer S/X should be good.
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- jsight 6y ago
  The Model S is much larger and faster than the bolt, so they definitely got some things for that money.

lostlogin 6y ago

I’m now old. Nerfed: The term "nerfing" comes from the online gaming world of Ultima Online. At one point in the game, the developers reduced the power of swords in melee combat. This resulted in players complaining that it was like they were hitting each other with nerf bats, not swords. From then on, if ever something gets made less worth while than it had been originally, it is considered 'nerfed' From https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nerfed https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nerfed

noja 6y ago
Pretty sure Nerf preceded Ultima Online https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerf
- Semaphor 6y ago
  That is what the preceding comment implies. After all, "nerf bats" directly references them. What was new, was simply the usage of making something worse.
- austhrow743 6y ago
  It would have to for the comment to make sense.
- tc313 6y ago
  Nerf the noun did, but not nerf the verb.
- ineedasername 6y ago
  Nerf in a game context was metaphorical, based on Nerf guns. Nerf guns' damage capability was a significant downgrade compared to a real gun. A previously powerful item in a game that was "Nerfed" was therefore a significant downgrade in capability.

ineedasername 6y ago

Yep, they've already worked through any number of issues to achieve their level of performance. In fact they may have already worked through something similar to this particular issue: Those nerfed batteries in your link were nerfed by the same ~10% loss that GM has had to place on Bolts, implying it was the high charge causing both issues. Most telling, Teslas's issue was with batteries they stopped using 4 years ago. I don't know if that signifies a 4-year lead on GM, but they're certainly ahead.

numpad0 6y ago
They degraded in that 4 years(2-3 at time of incidents) time, and when put under stresses, they caught fire. Tesla vehicles are not configured to avoid stressing their packs, therefore users were not made aware of degradations. Isn’t this simple enough and correct enough? I’m tired of their social media native ads. Let’s keep it simple.