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>Xi's mind is an open book in comparison to deciphering a fuzzy collective thought ethos of any democratically appointed cabinet. You can't possibly think that

by kace91 6y ago

>Xi's mind is an open book in comparison to deciphering a fuzzy collective thought ethos of any democratically appointed cabinet. You can't possibly think that xi is ruling by himself like a God. Dictatorships have just as much of a fickle, constantly changing hivemind as any other form of government. you might just have one ever running party, but look inside and you'll see a complex network of factions.

free_rms 6y ago
There are 91 million people in the party, and more who want in. Getting party membership is a big part of getting ahead. (Edit: It's not a hivemind is what I'm saying here.) All of those people have relationships that roll up and down. Rules for rulers and all that -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs
- justicezyx 6y ago
  Give me a break... No one needs party membership to do anything in private sectors... Why the hell people still think about Chinese live like party farmed animals. For God's sake, get on YouTube search some Chinese speaking videos by normal people. You are so echchambered that I start pitying you...
  - free_rms 6y ago
    I think you misunderstood me here, I was trying to emphasize how big and varied the party's interests are. People often frame it like a singleminded machine. I don't live there but I've heard a lot of people say that party membership is useful, not necessary mind you, for lots of business endeavors. There's a whole other conversation about the differences in representation between the two countries, and I think China's system has some points in it's favor as far as "does this government act on behalf of it's people", but I was just trying to phrase things in a way that would get through to the typical HN reader.
    - justicezyx 6y ago
      Apologize, it was not come to me in that way.
      - free_rms 6y ago
        Probably bad writing on my part too, there's 2 sides to every misunderstanding :)
- kace91 6y ago
  > Edit: It's not a hivemind is what I'm saying here. Perhaps I didn't use the best term, but it seems you're saying the same thing I did? My point was precisely that the actions of the party as a whole aren't collective actions directed by a single person's mind (xi's) but rather the sum of all the party members ideas and political movements, so it's just as complex as a democracy.
  - free_rms 6y ago
    Yeah, I was adding detail rather than disagreeing.

by kace91 6y ago

free_rms 6y ago

There are 91 million people in the party, and more who want in. Getting party membership is a big part of getting ahead. (Edit: It's not a hivemind is what I'm saying here.) All of those people have relationships that roll up and down. Rules for rulers and all that -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs

justicezyx 6y ago
Give me a break... No one needs party membership to do anything in private sectors... Why the hell people still think about Chinese live like party farmed animals. For God's sake, get on YouTube search some Chinese speaking videos by normal people. You are so echchambered that I start pitying you...
- free_rms 6y ago
  I think you misunderstood me here, I was trying to emphasize how big and varied the party's interests are. People often frame it like a singleminded machine. I don't live there but I've heard a lot of people say that party membership is useful, not necessary mind you, for lots of business endeavors. There's a whole other conversation about the differences in representation between the two countries, and I think China's system has some points in it's favor as far as "does this government act on behalf of it's people", but I was just trying to phrase things in a way that would get through to the typical HN reader.
  - justicezyx 6y ago
    Apologize, it was not come to me in that way.
    - free_rms 6y ago
      Probably bad writing on my part too, there's 2 sides to every misunderstanding :)
kace91 6y ago
> Edit: It's not a hivemind is what I'm saying here. Perhaps I didn't use the best term, but it seems you're saying the same thing I did? My point was precisely that the actions of the party as a whole aren't collective actions directed by a single person's mind (xi's) but rather the sum of all the party members ideas and political movements, so it's just as complex as a democracy.
- free_rms 6y ago
  Yeah, I was adding detail rather than disagreeing.