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Drug use amd drug-related crime also increased during the 60’s. That is a confounding factor in the crime argument.

an_opabinia 6y ago
That and wars happening at the same time and also in the near past that uh, also killed a lot of people. It’s not really the same thing, but US and European governments have lawfully sent more of their own innocent citizens to the grave in this century than any criminals ever. Then again the commenter was trying to equivocate opposition to civil rights as a law and order issue.
burner831234 6y ago
And ^^ the government was aware and enabling this increase in drugs/drug-related crime to disrupt political movements for, specifically equality: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO#:~:text=COINTELPRO%20(syllabic%20abbreviation%20derived%20from,and%20disrupting%20American%20political%20organization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO#:~:text=COINTELPRO%... https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3jedcYsLL_IJ:https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1997-01-05-1997005031-story.html+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3jedcY... (cached for the ease/convenience)
jariel 6y ago
Of course, there are many confounding factors - I'm not hinting otherwise. What I am pointing out - is the near total social decay that broke out in many areas, and the otherwise obvious malaise introduced in many places throughout America that for some reason, people want to totally ignore over when it suits their agenda. There's a generational divide between people who actually remember what Manhattan was like before it was 'cleaned up' (by hook or by crook, even that is controversial).
coldelectrons 6y ago
Don't forget lead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93crime_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93crime_hypothesis History has _a lot_ of moving parts.

That and wars happening at the same time and also in the near past that uh, also killed a lot of people. It’s not really the same thing, but US and European governments have lawfully sent more of their own innocent citizens to the grave in this century than any criminals ever. Then again the commenter was trying to equivocate opposition to civil rights as a law and order issue.

burner831234 6y ago

And ^^ the government was aware and enabling this increase in drugs/drug-related crime to disrupt political movements for, specifically equality: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO#:~:text=COINTELPRO%20(syllabic%20abbreviation%20derived%20from,and%20disrupting%20American%20political%20organization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO#:~:text=COINTELPRO%... https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3jedcYsLL_IJ:https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1997-01-05-1997005031-story.html+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3jedcY... (cached for the ease/convenience)

jariel 6y ago

Of course, there are many confounding factors - I'm not hinting otherwise. What I am pointing out - is the near total social decay that broke out in many areas, and the otherwise obvious malaise introduced in many places throughout America that for some reason, people want to totally ignore over when it suits their agenda. There's a generational divide between people who actually remember what Manhattan was like before it was 'cleaned up' (by hook or by crook, even that is controversial).

coldelectrons 6y ago

Don't forget lead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93crime_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93crime_hypothesis History has _a lot_ of moving parts.