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2013 article, so before the hyper partisan media induced fear and frenzy which really started in 2016, and has made media moguls fabulously wealthy while severe

2013 article, so before the hyper partisan media induced fear and frenzy which really started in 2016, and has made media moguls fabulously wealthy while severely damaging the fabric of American society and enabled divide and rule confusion IMO

toyg 6y ago
What year were you born? One could say exactly the same about 1992, or the Reagan years, or even Kennedy’s election.
- burner831234 6y ago
  One could, but studies have shown this partisan extremism was really rooted in the need for a subgroup to get as much representation as they could: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/religious-right-real-origins-107133 https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/religious-ri... Basically turning the republican party into a pod party
  - onecommentman 6y ago
    You’ll have to provide more evidence to support the extreme statement that the “Republican party is a pod party” than a 2014 article in Politico. Also, what is a pod party? I’d be delighted to meet a pod party member, bless their pea-picking hearts. I’m guessing we have differing definitions...
- bleepblorp 6y ago
  2020 is far, far worse than 1992 was. 1992 didn't have former White House officials calling for current officials to be beheaded for disloyalty. Unlike the ACA under Obama, the Republican response to Clinton's dead-on-arrival healthcare plan didn't involve establishment GOP figures calling for 'a second amendment solution.' The current wave of senior GOP figures disputing the legitimacy of the election -- to the point of looking for ways for pro-Biden states with Republican state governments to dismiss the results and send pro-Trump electors to the electoral college -- is also unprecedented in modern history. America is in dangerous territory and it is much worse than it was in the 1990s.
  - onecommentman 6y ago
    “2020 is far, far worse than 1992 was” Just on English usage, the hyperbole of “far, far worse” isn’t justified by your three, count them three, examples. Remember you aren’t saying it’s “worse” or “far worse”, but “far, far worse”. I don’t do politics, so I don’t know to what you are referring to on these points. 1. So more than one former government employee made serious threats against the lives of current government officials. That is a serious offense. What law suits or law enforcement interventions arose? I don’t keep up on these things. 2. What is a “second amendment solution”? Where was it written in a Republican document I can read? Did it involve guns of some sort? 3. Challenging the results of an election is “unprecedented in modern history”? I assume you mean in this way, whatever that is. And what precisely is that way? What is unprecedented? Most importantly, what is the difference between “far, far worse” and, say, “far, far, far worse”? You didn’t say “far, far, far worse”, so I’m guessing that means you think it’s really not so bad...
    - bleepblorp 6y ago
      I'm not going to post a detailed recap of the past 30 years of American political history in a HN comment. All of your questions can be answered in a few minutes with sufficiently well crafted DDG/Google/Bing searches. If you are so far removed from US politics that you don't have the background knowledge to frame such queries, then it's unclear to me why you're replying at all.
  - redis_mlc 6y ago
    Everything you said is leftist narrative, and the opposite of true. Bannon didn't say to execute leaders in current times, he used a simile "like Tudor times". The ACA is a disaster for everybody involved, whether consumers or insurers. The 2020 election does have serious irregularities - in fact Texas banned the Dominion machine before the election even started. If America is in dangerous territory, it's from gullible leftists and Marxists like yourself.
bigbubba 6y ago
Profit motivated fear mongering from news organizations is nothing new. For example, in the late 19th century, American newspapers instigated a pointless war with Spain.
- olivermarks 6y ago
  Agreed, also the notorious Hearst yellow journalism, which generated spectacular wealth and influence.

toyg 6y ago

What year were you born? One could say exactly the same about 1992, or the Reagan years, or even Kennedy’s election.

burner831234 6y ago
One could, but studies have shown this partisan extremism was really rooted in the need for a subgroup to get as much representation as they could: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/religious-right-real-origins-107133 https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/religious-ri... Basically turning the republican party into a pod party
- onecommentman 6y ago
  You’ll have to provide more evidence to support the extreme statement that the “Republican party is a pod party” than a 2014 article in Politico. Also, what is a pod party? I’d be delighted to meet a pod party member, bless their pea-picking hearts. I’m guessing we have differing definitions...
bleepblorp 6y ago
2020 is far, far worse than 1992 was. 1992 didn't have former White House officials calling for current officials to be beheaded for disloyalty. Unlike the ACA under Obama, the Republican response to Clinton's dead-on-arrival healthcare plan didn't involve establishment GOP figures calling for 'a second amendment solution.' The current wave of senior GOP figures disputing the legitimacy of the election -- to the point of looking for ways for pro-Biden states with Republican state governments to dismiss the results and send pro-Trump electors to the electoral college -- is also unprecedented in modern history. America is in dangerous territory and it is much worse than it was in the 1990s.
- onecommentman 6y ago
  “2020 is far, far worse than 1992 was” Just on English usage, the hyperbole of “far, far worse” isn’t justified by your three, count them three, examples. Remember you aren’t saying it’s “worse” or “far worse”, but “far, far worse”. I don’t do politics, so I don’t know to what you are referring to on these points. 1. So more than one former government employee made serious threats against the lives of current government officials. That is a serious offense. What law suits or law enforcement interventions arose? I don’t keep up on these things. 2. What is a “second amendment solution”? Where was it written in a Republican document I can read? Did it involve guns of some sort? 3. Challenging the results of an election is “unprecedented in modern history”? I assume you mean in this way, whatever that is. And what precisely is that way? What is unprecedented? Most importantly, what is the difference between “far, far worse” and, say, “far, far, far worse”? You didn’t say “far, far, far worse”, so I’m guessing that means you think it’s really not so bad...
  - bleepblorp 6y ago
    I'm not going to post a detailed recap of the past 30 years of American political history in a HN comment. All of your questions can be answered in a few minutes with sufficiently well crafted DDG/Google/Bing searches. If you are so far removed from US politics that you don't have the background knowledge to frame such queries, then it's unclear to me why you're replying at all.
- redis_mlc 6y ago
  Everything you said is leftist narrative, and the opposite of true. Bannon didn't say to execute leaders in current times, he used a simile "like Tudor times". The ACA is a disaster for everybody involved, whether consumers or insurers. The 2020 election does have serious irregularities - in fact Texas banned the Dominion machine before the election even started. If America is in dangerous territory, it's from gullible leftists and Marxists like yourself.

bigbubba 6y ago

Profit motivated fear mongering from news organizations is nothing new. For example, in the late 19th century, American newspapers instigated a pointless war with Spain.

olivermarks 6y ago
Agreed, also the notorious Hearst yellow journalism, which generated spectacular wealth and influence.