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I wonder how Cruise Automation is affected by having their self-driving tech running on the Bolt platform.

by soheil 6y ago

SheinhardtWigCo 6y ago
Probably not much: > GM said it has developed software that will limit vehicle charging to 90% of full capacity to mitigate the risk while GM works to determine the appropriate final repair.
- spullara 6y ago
  Huh. I only charge my Tesla to 100% a few times a year.
- fma 6y ago
  I'm not sure if Bolts have Over The Air updates? It mentions dealers...I know some GM cars have or will have...just not sure the older Bolts. So a consumer would need to personally ensure they don't charge to 90%, or bring it back to the dealership twice.
  - fmpwizard 6y ago
    The bolt has over the air update capabilities, but iirc, it was used only once in the past 4 years. And the bolt has an option to limit charge to X%. I set mine to about 80%, and it's plenty for my needs. So you can leave your car plugged in all day long
rconti 6y ago
I would guess they don't charge over 90% anyway. I've only charged our 3 to 100% 5 or 10 times over 2.5 years. And I don't leave it sitting that way.
- latortuga 6y ago
  I've been shopping for a Bolt on and off for a couple months and you'd be surprised! I see folks all the time that say some dismissive equivalent of "oh it's a lease, I just charge to 100% every day". Not charging to full capacity will either become car knowledge that everyone learns in drivers ed or manufacturers will end up blocking off some percentage in software to prevent full charges.
  - CameronNemo 6y ago
    Frankly I would prefer the software cap which I can disable (with a warning) for long trips. I like to plug in overnight and I can't check at 2 AM where the charge is at.
    - kfarr 6y ago
      Yeah it makes no sense for the operator to manually regulate charging. We don't do that with any other rechargeable device. Oh gotta unplug my phone it's at 90%!
      - iancmceachern 6y ago
        Exactly, the gas pump stops when the tank is full, not when its 10% overfilled.
    - pseudosavant 6y ago
      First, every EV battery already has excess capacity you can't charge up. Second, Nissan tried having the Leaf default to 85%. But they got in trouble for claiming more range than they should. The government rates the capacity in the default configuration.
      - sokoloff 6y ago
        There’s no reason you couldn’t have the default be 90% of whatever you thought was safe and allow 11% over rated on occasion by explicit user selection. It’d be like packing an extra gallon or two into your gas tank after the dispenser clicks off.
- brianpan 6y ago
  The Model 3 has a setting to do that. The Bolt does not. If you plug it in, it's charging to full. With the Bolt, all you can do is use tricks like scheduling the charging late (so that it might not be fully charged by the time you drive off in the morning).

I wonder how Cruise Automation is affected by having their self-driving tech running on the Bolt platform.

by soheil 6y ago

I wonder how Cruise Automation is affected by having their self-driving tech running on the Bolt platform.

Probably not much: > GM said it has developed software that will limit vehicle charging to 90% of full capacity to mitigate the risk while GM works to determine the appropriate final repair.

spullara 6y ago
Huh. I only charge my Tesla to 100% a few times a year.
fma 6y ago
I'm not sure if Bolts have Over The Air updates? It mentions dealers...I know some GM cars have or will have...just not sure the older Bolts. So a consumer would need to personally ensure they don't charge to 90%, or bring it back to the dealership twice.
- fmpwizard 6y ago
  The bolt has over the air update capabilities, but iirc, it was used only once in the past 4 years. And the bolt has an option to limit charge to X%. I set mine to about 80%, and it's plenty for my needs. So you can leave your car plugged in all day long

rconti 6y ago

I would guess they don't charge over 90% anyway. I've only charged our 3 to 100% 5 or 10 times over 2.5 years. And I don't leave it sitting that way.

latortuga 6y ago
I've been shopping for a Bolt on and off for a couple months and you'd be surprised! I see folks all the time that say some dismissive equivalent of "oh it's a lease, I just charge to 100% every day". Not charging to full capacity will either become car knowledge that everyone learns in drivers ed or manufacturers will end up blocking off some percentage in software to prevent full charges.
- CameronNemo 6y ago
  Frankly I would prefer the software cap which I can disable (with a warning) for long trips. I like to plug in overnight and I can't check at 2 AM where the charge is at.
  - kfarr 6y ago
    Yeah it makes no sense for the operator to manually regulate charging. We don't do that with any other rechargeable device. Oh gotta unplug my phone it's at 90%!
    - iancmceachern 6y ago
      Exactly, the gas pump stops when the tank is full, not when its 10% overfilled.
  - pseudosavant 6y ago
    First, every EV battery already has excess capacity you can't charge up. Second, Nissan tried having the Leaf default to 85%. But they got in trouble for claiming more range than they should. The government rates the capacity in the default configuration.
    - sokoloff 6y ago
      There’s no reason you couldn’t have the default be 90% of whatever you thought was safe and allow 11% over rated on occasion by explicit user selection. It’d be like packing an extra gallon or two into your gas tank after the dispenser clicks off.
brianpan 6y ago
The Model 3 has a setting to do that. The Bolt does not. If you plug it in, it's charging to full. With the Bolt, all you can do is use tricks like scheduling the charging late (so that it might not be fully charged by the time you drive off in the morning).