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Older generation in Hongkong and Taiwan tend to identify themselves as Chinese, but the younger generation tend not to. This is mostly due to exposure to wester

Older generation in Hongkong and Taiwan tend to identify themselves as Chinese, but the younger generation tend not to. This is mostly due to exposure to western media which rightly or wrongly accuses the authoritarian CCP government for every bad things happening within its border. CCP leadership might still think they have a chance for true reunification, or maybe they're just saber rattling. Personally, I don't think full reunification is possible until Chinese propaganda is able to compete with American ones.

godelski 6y ago
> Older generation in Hongkong and Taiwan tend to identify themselves as Chinese, but the younger generation tend not to. I see this, but I also see the "We're [Taiwanese] the real China, and the mainland isn't" mentality as well (they'll get upset if you call them Taiwanese). It does get a bit complicated, especially if you think back to what happened during the cultural revolution and the people that stayed in mainland vs those that went to Taiwan.
- eloisius 6y ago
  Rarely will you run into anyone with this “we’re the real China,” 外省人 identity that would be offended to be called Taiwanese. Descendants of mainlanders that came to Taiwan after 1949 are a minority and Taiwanese identity is very popular here. Both Taiwanese and Waishengren will quickly point out that ROC is the original China and of course they are independent because how could they not be independent from a country that split from it. Then Taiwanese will disagree about whether China (ROC or PRC) has any right to colonize their island. Another generation and hardly anyone will have Chinese identity, I imagine. An example I hear a lot is that the Vietnamese and Koreans also used to be Chinese.
  - throwawat47654 6y ago
    Taiwanese, Hongkongers, and the larger Chinese diaspora still have the 華人 identity (i.e. part of the Chinese civilization).

godelski 6y ago

> Older generation in Hongkong and Taiwan tend to identify themselves as Chinese, but the younger generation tend not to. I see this, but I also see the "We're [Taiwanese] the real China, and the mainland isn't" mentality as well (they'll get upset if you call them Taiwanese). It does get a bit complicated, especially if you think back to what happened during the cultural revolution and the people that stayed in mainland vs those that went to Taiwan.

eloisius 6y ago
Rarely will you run into anyone with this “we’re the real China,” 外省人 identity that would be offended to be called Taiwanese. Descendants of mainlanders that came to Taiwan after 1949 are a minority and Taiwanese identity is very popular here. Both Taiwanese and Waishengren will quickly point out that ROC is the original China and of course they are independent because how could they not be independent from a country that split from it. Then Taiwanese will disagree about whether China (ROC or PRC) has any right to colonize their island. Another generation and hardly anyone will have Chinese identity, I imagine. An example I hear a lot is that the Vietnamese and Koreans also used to be Chinese.
- throwawat47654 6y ago
  Taiwanese, Hongkongers, and the larger Chinese diaspora still have the 華人 identity (i.e. part of the Chinese civilization).